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Old 01-28-2016, 02:54 PM   #1
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Seneca Hubcaps

Today I learned how to take the hubcap off the Alcoa wheels. Only two of the lug nuts are removable. Those two are identified by a small indentation on the side of my he nut. When you take those two nuts off the hubcap comes off and the rest of them that are pressed into the cap remain on.
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Old 01-28-2016, 03:27 PM   #2
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Something I learned about my identical caps, mine seemed to "flex" and make a speed-dependent clicking or creaking noise after I removed and reinstalled the front covers. At first thought it was a front wheel bearing making the noise. Checked the forums and it was something several other Seneca owners reported. In my case it was even starting to wear into the wheel finish where the cap met the wheel.

I solved mine by getting some 1/4" clear vinyl tubing at Home Depot, slicing it with a razor knife lengthwise so I could slip the tubing onto the edge of the wheel cover. Used 3 pieces per cover thereby leaving several small gaps for any water to escape from underneath and reinstalled covers. Now the vinyl tubing is in contact with the wheel surface, not a sharp sheet metal edge. No more noise.

Don't know if the rears have similar issues, too far back to hear I suppose.
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Old 01-28-2016, 04:06 PM   #3
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Robbbyr, Thats a very interesting fix ! I heard the same clicking sound on my Maiden trip in Dec and was going to bring to the dealer to get fixed.....didn't even know the source of the problem !

I will try your solution using Mnwelsh's tip on the lug nuts....awesome use of this forum !
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Old 01-28-2016, 06:26 PM   #4
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Had same problem, used catherer tubing to fix.
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Old 01-28-2016, 07:53 PM   #5
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Robbbyr, Thats a very interesting fix ! I heard the same clicking sound on my Maiden trip in Dec and was going to bring to the dealer to get fixed.....didn't even know the source of the problem !

I will try your solution using Mnwelsh's tip on the lug nuts....awesome use of this forum !
To confirm the diagnosis of the covers being the source of the noise just remove the covers and go for a drive with the windows down. Helpful to have a passenger listen on that side too if possible. Pick a mild day and a quiet road so you can see if the noise is truly gone.

I talked to Jayco a year ago when I isolated the noise, their only suggestion was to figure out a way to separate the two parts. Maybe by now they have a better suggestion or even a revised cover they may provide to those of us with the issue. I would ask them when you visit the dealer.
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Old 01-29-2016, 07:06 AM   #6
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We have not noticed this problem, but rate this a very good bit of information to know. Had know idea that two of the bolts were real. So far haven't investigated much in the wheel area, except to clean the wheels once and found a very sharp edge on one of the wheel holes. Won't be so vigorous wiping on inside of those holes in the future. Took over a week for that wound to heal.
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Old 02-02-2016, 01:14 PM   #7
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The 2016's still have the same issue! I will be stealing Robbbyr's clear tubing trick.
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Old 02-02-2016, 01:38 PM   #8
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This setup makes cleaning the wheels easier.
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This setup makes cleaning the wheels easier.
I use the exact same thing.
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:38 PM   #10
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I thought our Seneca Alcoa wheels have a factory-applied protective finish. Is that compound /method abrasive and possibly damaging to the finish?

I thought I received a one-page Alcoa document in my huge pack of delivery paperwork that had care instructions, but my unit is at the factory now or I would double-check.
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