Jayco RV Owners Forum
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-07-2015, 04:07 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: oneonta ny
Posts: 533
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffc1157 View Post
Thanks for all the feedback. I've read and been told nothing but great things about the Firestone air bags but what kind of maintenance do they require and what about longevity? The on board compressor sounds great but looking for a solution that's not going to break the bank!
Yeah, looks like you will drop close to grand for them with the wireless compressor and all. I'm thinking about them. Might be an alternative to cranking the hell out of the WDH. I actually bent the little pins that hold the snap-up brackets on mine they were cranked so much. And it looks like it needs another link the way it sits
__________________

rick danger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2015, 04:27 PM   #12
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Missoula
Posts: 3
At the recommendation of a mechanic, I went with Air Ride bags for my truck. I caught them with a rebate at $125. I installed myself. Thinking I would be smart I connected the two bags to a single valve. However, upon reporting to my mechanic friend was advised against that due to sway control issues. I then went with separate valves routing them thru the holes of the rear license plate. When I'm connected to the trailer I run them at about 50 lbs. When I'm not, I run them at about 12 lbs. I have a cheap 12V compressor I keep in the truck and have spliced in a longer cord to reach the back. Has worked out quite well. No other maintenance is required.
__________________

slsmks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2015, 06:16 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
3'senough's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 2,072
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffc1157 View Post
Thanks for all the feedback. I've read and been told nothing but great things about the Firestone air bags but what kind of maintenance do they require and what about longevity? The on board compressor sounds great but looking for a solution that's not going to break the bank!
I just went with the airbags, no comressor. On board comperssor is a luxury IMHO. I already had a 12V 120PSI compressor and once set I don't touch them for a trip. These can be picked up for $50.00 on Amazon.

The schrader valves are right in the bumper of my TV so easy adjustment. If you want, overfill them to 40 PSI and adjust down when hitched and go. DO NOT Tee them! Seperate fills for safety.

Maintenance is nil, just make sure you use a new razor blade when cutting the hose to keep square and true. No cutters as this will make the hose compress and could lead to leaks.
__________________

2014 375 BHFS Eagle Premier
2014 Ram 3500 Longhorn DRW CC
6.7 CTD, Aisin, 4.10's
Yamaha EF3000iSEB
3'senough is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2015, 06:48 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Kennewick
Posts: 235
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffc1157 View Post
Thanks for all the feedback. I've read and been told nothing but great things about the Firestone air bags but what kind of maintenance do they require and what about longevity? The on board compressor sounds great but looking for a solution that's not going to break the bank!
I had the same thoughts when I went with the SuperSprings. No compressor, wiring, or airlines. The auto-adjustable superspring does the same thing an airbag does without the possible points of failure. I did find some users of Supersprings before I bought them and they all confirmed they worked as advertised. I think they are a good product and as time goes buy their popularity will increase.
__________________
2014 Eagle Premier 361REQS
Mor-ride pin box
SuperSprings
2013 GMC Sierra 2500 CC SB 4x4 Duramax
skijlw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2015, 08:25 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Renfrew
Posts: 137
Looking at the video of the super springs they look to me the same as the timbrens, You have to squat the truck before they work! I want something that holds the truck from squatting which is what the airbags are designed to do! Also I dont see how they won't affect the ride when not loaded, if you hit a bump it will hit the super spring rather than have the full travel of the stock suspension.

Just my opinion
__________________

2015 F350 XLT SRW 6.7 Powerstroke 4x4
Reese Elite 18k
2015 Eagle HT 29.5BHDS
Ont Pete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2015, 10:31 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Kennewick
Posts: 235
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ont Pete View Post
Looking at the video of the super springs they look to me the same as the timbrens, You have to squat the truck before they work! I want something that holds the truck from squatting which is what the airbags are designed to do! Also I dont see how they won't affect the ride when not loaded, if you hit a bump it will hit the super spring rather than have the full travel of the stock suspension.

Just my opinion
My current GMC truck sits with the rear high when empty as did my previous Ford F-350. I don't claim to be an expert on springs. What I have observed after several thousand miles of use with SuperSprings is my truck ride seems to be the same as before the spring install. From what I observed mechanically when I installed them it appears the SuperSpring has little effect on the original leaf spring until the truck springs are compressed quite a bit as the Superspring rolls out a few inches of travel before it starts to bend. When my 5er is attached with about 2700 lbs of hitch weight the truck sits level. Air bags I am sure do the same thing. I just thought they had more points for failure which may or may not be the case as there are millions in use today.
__________________
2014 Eagle Premier 361REQS
Mor-ride pin box
SuperSprings
2013 GMC Sierra 2500 CC SB 4x4 Duramax
skijlw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2015, 10:40 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Kennewick
Posts: 235
Quote:
Originally Posted by skijlw View Post
My current GMC truck sits with the rear high when empty as did my previous Ford F-350. I don't claim to be an expert on springs. What I have observed after several thousand miles of use with SuperSprings is my truck ride seems to be the same as before the spring install. From what I observed mechanically when I installed them it appears the SuperSpring has little effect on the original leaf spring until the truck springs are compressed quite a bit as the Superspring rolls out a few inches of travel before it starts to bend. When my 5er is attached with about 2700 lbs of hitch weight the truck sits level. Air bags I am sure do the same thing. I just thought they had more points for failure which may or may not be the case as there are millions in use today.
Ont Pete Timbrens may or may not do the same thing as SuperSprings I have no experience with Timbrens.
__________________
2014 Eagle Premier 361REQS
Mor-ride pin box
SuperSprings
2013 GMC Sierra 2500 CC SB 4x4 Duramax
skijlw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2015, 10:57 AM   #18
Senior Member
 
NVGun40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Eagle River, AK
Posts: 810
I believe the issue really comes down to personal preference. There are a few out there who have experienced both and make can make good observations. My personal experience is guided by application. For towing a TT or hauling around a cabover, I believe the airbags provide a more comfortable ride and dampen bounce which I think is better for the trailer.
Meanwhile, I cut a lot of firewood and haul various other loads, for this type of application I prefer my super springs because they "stiffen" the suspension when under load more than air bags would.
__________________
We are just a humble drinking couple with a hunting and camping problem.
2015 White Hawk 25BHS Glacier Package
2004 Dodge Ram 2500, 5.7 Hemi, 5Spd Manual
2008 Arctic Cat M1000 SnoPro
Previous: Northface tent/Komfort 5er/Jamboree MH
Lance Cabover/Prowler TT/WildernessTT/Tiltin Hiltin Cabover/Starcraft popup
NVGun40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2015, 12:19 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
troutslayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NW AR (God's Country)
Posts: 1,848
Just as an option, you may want to look at these. I used the StableLoad Quick Disconnect on my TV for my previous 5er. It was considerably heavier than my Jayco and because the Jayco is so much lighter, I don't use these anymore. You stated that you just need a little help when the tanks are full so this may be a good option. Easy to install/use and inexpensive.
Truck Camper Suspension - truck sway - truck sag - reduce camper roll | StableLoad
__________________
Skip

2012 Eagle Super Lite HT 26.5RKS
2005 GMC 2500 SLT HD D/A
troutslayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2015, 12:53 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 1,068
I bought my airbags on Amazon. Vehicle specific kits are around $200 and pretty easy to install. I opted against a mounted compressor, too pricey for the convenience for me. I originally ran separate lines for each bag. It became annoying trying to get both bags filled and dumped equally.


Last year I bought a Tee fitting and ran the bags to one line. I know some people recommend against it because it could lead to one bag emptying into the other. If you are cornering hard enough to dump one bag into the other, you are going awful fast. Only time my bags are aired up is when I am towing or hauling gravel. I don't generally speed (certainly not around corners) when I am doing either.
__________________

spoon059 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia State Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.