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Old 09-23-2016, 04:19 PM   #21
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I went 4X4 and the 6.2 Gas, have been very happy after 37,000 miles put on it in 1 Yr. Having the 6.2 allows me to do all my own Oil and Filter changes easily and no worry about water in the fuel or Turbo issues. Only issue I've had is with the Evap on the AC, while I at the dealer Thursday I overhead a guy with a new Diesel with 5000 miles on it in the waiting area with a Turbo failure. He was not happy... I was happy I had the 6.2. Not saying it can't have issues also but it is a good ol big block naturually aspirated engine of fairly simple design.

All that said when I win the lottery and get a Dually F450 it'll be a Diesel but I'll also be able to afford a new engine if it blows up.

As for 4X4... I looked at it as better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. Kinda like Dual AC's when ordering a camper and I'm very happy I got it with 2 and I have been happy I got the 4WD as it also allows us to go off-road when we get to destinations. First 4X4 for me so was a splurge.

If you get a 2016 F250 which I'm sure will be deeply discounted with the new 2017's coming out I would recommend Air Bags to keep the tail from dragging. Definetly worth the $250.

Good luck with your decision.
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Old 09-23-2016, 05:24 PM   #22
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I had a f350 2 wheel drive and it was a dually and even at that I got stuck several times just pulling in my driveway with very little snow on the ground. When I got my truck I have now I wanted 4wd and haven't been sorry. # weeks ago I was at a campground where I got parked in the owners yard due to my site being taken upon arrival in a pouring rain. I would have never got backed in had I not had 4 wd and 2 days later when I went to pull out with the camper tires sunk in wet grass I had to use 4wd to get rolling and get out. My fuel economy is about the same with the new as it was the old and other than the extra weight of the front axle your hauling around I would do the same all over again in a heartbeat
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:17 PM   #23
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Guess I'm in the minority on this one but I live where the is little snow. I have never gotten stuck with the 250SD SRW, I opted for diesel as the primary use is towing the camper, I have another gas p/u for daily use. I don't think you can find many camps sites that do not have a 4x4 TV that would be willing to help if needed. It's camping, helping when some one needs a hand. I carry a tow chain just in case. The chain has been used to help other needing a little extra power.
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:43 PM   #24
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4X4 "Diesel" is my choice. The new Ram 2500 which I have (Cummins 6.7) also has:

•Segment-exclusive front axle disconnect system now on Ram 2500

Diesels compared to gas engines are "apples & oranges" where mileage & power is concerned and with the 2015 Ram 2500 my front axle is totally disengaged when in 2WD giving me the best of all worlds, mileage, power and being able to have 4WD in situations where needed. That said the newer diesels are even much more efficient. I've owned 2 Ram trucks with Cummins and would never consider going to a gasser for towing an RV given the power and fuel efficiency of the diesel and of course the 4X4. Everyone has their choice and opinion which makes for interesting discussions.
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Old 09-24-2016, 10:12 AM   #25
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I've had both, and my preference is 4x4. I've needed it a couple of times this year, primarily on wet grass or fairly steep gravel roads. In both cases I probably could have made it out with some maneuvering, but my preference is not to chew roads up with spinning tires
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You don't need a 4x4... until you do need a 4x4.
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Old 09-24-2016, 01:55 PM   #28
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I went 4X4 and the 6.2 Gas, have been very happy after 37,000 miles put on it in 1 Yr. Having the 6.2 allows me to do all my own Oil and Filter changes easily and no worry about water in the fuel or Turbo issues. Only issue I've had is with the Evap on the AC, while I at the dealer Thursday I overhead a guy with a new Diesel with 5000 miles on it in the waiting area with a Turbo failure. He was not happy... I was happy I had the 6.2. Not saying it can't have issues also but it is a good ol big block naturually aspirated engine of fairly simple design.



Not trying to spur a negative debate or take this off the OP's topic; but I just had to chime in on your comment about a gasser vs. a diesel after reading your post. The fact that you overheard a guy in the service area with 5000 miles and a turbo failure doesn't speak for the majority (diesel or gas) with severe failures of major components. My thought was you've never actually owned a diesel and have come to the conclusion they are problematic?? Suggest you do a research on diesel (Cummins) vs gas..."can't speak for other diesel brands"... I responded because I speak from my experience with a "Cummins" diesel. I've had 2 Ram trucks with Cummins, one with the 5.9 and my new one with the 6.7. Both with turbos and never an issue, and I easily change my own filters (oil and fuel). Also never had water in fuel...besides they have water separators with a manual drain. An in cab warning would tell you if you have water in the separator and you can simply reach in and open the small valve wheel and it drains with no problems. As I said I've never had that problem with either of my trucks. Diesels have a much better track record than most gassers and of course longevity. I can't speak for Ford or GM diesels which I've never owned or plan to and may have those specific problems; but the Cummins (which is my preference) and I can attest to is a Gem of an engine and the 2 I've had are easily serviced when needed. I agree we're all entitled to our opinions and in some instances knowing the actual facts take precedence.
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The one thing people on here have yet to mention is the worse mileage you get with 4x4. even when not using it you pay at 3-4 mpg penalty.. I have needed the 4x4 Once in 20 years of RVing.. the extra cost in buying a 4x4 and the mileage penalty over the years would easily have paid for the tow..

Sorry to have to disagree but I believe you're misinformed about this one. I am getting the same mileage as my brother-in-law gets with his 2WD... same year and engine/axle ratio, etc. The difference we see sometimes has him getting .2 mpg better, and sometimes me getting .2 mpg better..... And, I get about the same non-towing mileage as my '11 F-150 with 5.0 V-8, until I hitch up to tow. At that point, instead of 8.5 to 9.5 mpg I get 12.5 to 14 mpg.
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Old 09-24-2016, 05:02 PM   #30
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Not trying to spur a negative debate or take this off the OP's topic; but I just had to chime in on your comment about a gasser vs. a diesel after reading your post. The fact that you overheard a guy in the service area with 5000 miles and a turbo failure doesn't speak for the majority (diesel or gas) with severe failures of major components. My thought was you've never actually owned a diesel and have come to the conclusion they are problematic?? Suggest you do a research on diesel (Cummins) vs gas..."can't speak for other diesel brands"... I responded because I speak from my experience with a "Cummins" diesel. I've had 2 Ram trucks with Cummins, one with the 5.9 and my new one with the 6.7. Both with turbos and never an issue, and I easily change my own filters (oil and fuel). Also never had water in fuel...besides they have water separators with a manual drain. An in cab warning would tell you if you have water in the separator and you can simply reach in and open the small valve wheel and it drains with no problems. As I said I've never had that problem with either of my trucks. Diesels have a much better track record than most gassers and of course longevity. I can't speak for Ford or GM diesels which I've never owned or plan to and may have those specific problems; but the Cummins (which is my preference) and I can attest to is a Gem of an engine and the 2 I've had are easily serviced when needed. I agree we're all entitled to our opinions and in some instances knowing the actual facts take precedence.
By the way, I love passing "Gas"!
No offense taken... I have been around Diesels for many years, mainly Caterpillar Marine (Big 3412's) and Cummins Marine (Shrimp Boats) and 7.3 Internationals Pre and Post Turbo in the 90's F350's (we used to pump fuel off the Shrimp Boats to run in the 7.3's... ya we weren't supposed to).

Im a Ford guy so was more talking about the issues I researched about with the modern Power Strokes. As I mentioned any engine can have troubles I just opted for less moving parts at this time.

As for the Dodge and the Cummins... If I would have decided I could have afforded a Diesel at this time it was on the top of my list. They have a rock solid reputation and I know a few people with them and the chassis are definitely heavy duty. This summer I rode in a friends HD 2500 Mega Cab... I was jealous I will admit .. even coming from a Ford guy.
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