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Old 09-06-2016, 03:39 PM   #31
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So you don't have a dilemma now.
Yes he does Every time he looks in the mirror.

I think we went all thru this when he was talking about using the SWMBO's 2009 Tacoma
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:27 PM   #32
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If I had the option of a dedicated tow vehicle that's definitely the way I would go. I have a 2003 Explorer that I love. It's been passed down from my oldest daughter to now my youngest. I would not want to beat it up pulling a trailer around.
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Old 09-06-2016, 05:17 PM   #33
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I was re-reading this thread and missed post # 17. , an Aha moment.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:13 AM   #34
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Yes he does Every time he looks in the mirror.

That's not a dilemma, that's a Horror Show!


I think we went all thru this when he was talking about using the SWMBO's 2009 Tacoma
There was never a question we would use her Tacoma. The salesman said it would pull the new trailer fine! A WDH made it practical.
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Old 09-07-2016, 08:08 AM   #35
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There was never a question we would use her Tacoma. The salesman said it would pull the new trailer fine! A WDH made it practical.
Just curious Just what was all the ranting and raving about in the following thread. Found it very interesting to re-read your posts

http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f3...tml#post427887
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Just curious Just what was all the ranting and raving about in the following thread. Found it very interesting to re-read your posts

http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f3...tml#post427887
The ranting and raving of THAT thread was about the absolute unavailability of manual transmissions in modern mid-level vehicles (family cars and light trucks).

I had asked, What makes an automatic better than a manual?"

I may be prejudiced, but it seemed that automatics aren't better, just more convenient, more costly, less reliable and waste fuel.
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I was referring to your comment


I've been towing with SWMBO's 1/4 ton (auto transmission) for 7 years now. The hunting when going uphill or in heavy traffic drives me nuts! Plus worrying over overheating the fluid. Did that last 3-4 shift feel odd? Why is the converter clutch closed yet?


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Just my opinion but I would say that anyone that tows a TT with a 6000 lb max rating with a TV that has a 6500 lb max towing capacity is entitled to rant and rave about " The hunting when going uphill or in heavy traffic drives me nuts" Now maybe if he had a better TV and wasn't running about 92% of the weight ratio between TT and TV he wouldn't be complaining as much about the hunting.


And then you post about your current Dilemma... about using a explorer that has even less of a tow capacity than the Tacoma. I just couldn't figure what the dilemma was other than it appears you didn't learn from the experience of all the hunting the Tacoma did.


And to quote you "I've got about 40 years and over 500,000 miles of driving experience"
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Just my opinion but I would say that anyone that tows a TT with a 6000 lb max rating with a TV that has a 6500 lb max towing capacity is entitled to rant and rave about " The hunting when going uphill or in heavy traffic drives me nuts" Now maybe if he had a better TV and wasn't running about 92% of the weight ratio between TT and TV he wouldn't be complaining as much about the hunting.


And then you post about your current Dilemma... about using a explorer that has even less of a tow capacity than the Tacoma. I just couldn't figure what the dilemma was other than it appears you didn't learn from the experience of all the hunting the Tacoma did.


And to quote you "I've got about 40 years and over 500,000 miles of driving experience"
Yes, I do know that we are running close on the Tacoma. And I do want to move up to a bigger, more capable TV.

When I started this thread I believed that the Explorer was slightly more capable than the Tacoma.

After other members pointed out that I had totally misread the tables for the Explorer and it is considerably LESS capable that the Tacoma, the dilemma was solved. Utterly and completely!

I now have to put full efforts into making the F-350 as comfortable as possible to be The Tow Vehicle. The Explorer will be my daily driver while I save up the cash for my Dream Truck. Goals clearly established!

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Just as an aside, a 19RD can weigh as much as 6,000#. However, we tow with only 5 gallons of drinking water on board (empty tanks) and only about 300# of food, clothing and other gear. So we are towing just under 5,000#, well within the Tacoma's capabilities.
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Just as an aside, a 19RD can weigh as much as 6,000#. However, we tow with only 5 gallons of drinking water on board (empty tanks) and only about 300# of food, clothing and other gear. So we are towing just under 5,000#, well within the Tacoma's capabilities.
I understand that and that you may be well within the Tacoma's specs But that makes me wonder why the Tacoma did all that hunting when going up hills. You may be under 5000# when on flat ground but going up hills with that weight places more drag on the TV.

I normally use a 20/80 % rule Whatever is the max rating of my TV which is currently 8650 my TT should be no more than 80% of that figure which would be 6880 lbs. My current TT has a max gross rating of 5800 lbs That's a good 2850 lbs UNDER what the TV is rated at. I do not have any problems with the hills here in PA with this set-up.

Whenever I figure weights I never say we only have a few hundred lbs in the TT I always use the max weight rating of the TT and that way I know I am well within specs.

Also not being one to brag but in this case I will My driving experience is 50+ years with a total miles of more than twice yours I had one year in which I put over 85000 miles on a new Pick-Up.
And with all that experience I am no where near being an expert.
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I understand that and that you may be well within the Tacoma's specs But that makes me wonder why the Tacoma did all that hunting when going up hills.
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Also not being one to brag but in this case I will My driving experience is 50+ years with a total miles of more than twice yours I had one year in which I put over 85000 miles on a new Pick-Up.
And with all that experience I am no where near being an expert.
Thinking about it, "hunting" was the wrong word to describe my perceived problem with the Tacoma. It would downshift (open the converter clutch and drop out of overdrive, possibly go as low as 2nd) allowing the engine to 'scream' @ 3500 rpm. Then build back the mph lost and upshift back into 3rd. On a long hill the 3-2, 2-3 shift full cycle would take about 15-20 seconds. Going down the other side, it would then get back up into overdrive and close the clutch. Settle back to about 1800 rpm.

Maybe we aren't driving fast enough? 55-60 on an Interstate. The sound of the engine purring along on the flats contrasts so heavily with the roar of downshifting so low to maintain speed.

Either way, no more complaints from SWMBO that I am ruining her truck!

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