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Old 04-05-2016, 12:46 AM   #1
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Amish made?

I would think if the Amish have anything to do with Jayco products you would think they would know how to properly build the cabinet doors. Staying in dry AZ for three months caused the door panels to shrink showing unstained white wood on the edges. Now I use to build cabinets, and would stain the edges of the panels about 1/2" before assembling them, then stain the rest of the doors. This prevents the problem of unstained wood showing. Guess I'll have to go to Indiana and school the Amish on how to do it right.

Now I'll have the problem of getting some stain to match from the dealer, or Jayco. O well, will probable have to mix up some myself when we get back home. heading back home tomorrow, sigh.

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Old 04-05-2016, 10:16 AM   #2
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The claim of Amish built quality is a joke when it comes to RVs. True, many RV manufacturers have Amish workers but the Amish do not design the RVs and the Amish workers have to work at the same frenetic pace on the assembly lines as "English" workers and simply cannot take the time to do quality work.

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Old 04-05-2016, 11:03 AM   #3
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I can attest to the fact that many Amish workers have been displaced by "cheaper" labor.
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Old 04-05-2016, 11:25 AM   #4
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When we took the factory tour, all of the workers that we saw were Amish (it was fun to see the buggies and old style bikes parked outside of the factory), and we weren't allowed to photograph their faces. We were told that the majority of the workers start there when the were old enough, and stay till retirement. There is little turn over, as the majority stay there.

That being said, they work with materials that they are given. There is no time constraint, as they come in early and go home when the days jobs are completed.
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Amish Quality Hype by Dealers

Yeah, if they finish their production quota by end of last shift on Thursday they don't have to come to work on Friday. Was told this in person by Jayco Museum Front Desk staff as we were present at 11 AM on Friday to see a production run
that didn't run. Go figure!!! What quality?
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Jayco does not make their doors, they purchase them from a local mfg.. I believe they make the doors for many companies, and, I'm not sure they finish them. Hence, can't stain them before assembly. When staining you can also use an air gun to "push" the stain under the mortise of the door frame, this also prevents white wood from showing when the doors shrink from low humidity.

Also being in Az I suggest when your RV is stored you place several buckets of water inside the unit. This will help add a small amount of humidity to the unit.

Also, warranty is tracked back to the "team" that made the unit. Too many warranty issues and the "team" is penalized. The incentive is to do it fast but correct. But they are humans and humans have good days and bad days...people get sick others fill in etc. Overall Jayco does as well as any company in their quality and standards.
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Ever walk through a store that sells Amish furniture? Ever see REAL Amish furniture, the stuff they make for their own homes? Simple and functional.

The short answer is that they are poor finish carpenters.
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You won't find such poor furniture building practices in Amish furniture. Heck, you would not find such sloppy building practices in a house. Nailing through outside cabinet faces and trim pieces? Using pocket hole screws?

No, it may be assembled by Amish, but to use Amish build quality in the same breath is heresy.
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Two things to remember---men make mistakes and machines fail.

Living in Lancaster county Pa. What the Amish make here is real wood products that are extremely well made. Remember they are on a production line and must meet a quota so speed is of the essence--get it done and out the door!
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Also, warranty is tracked back to the "team" that made the unit. Too many warranty issues and the "team" is penalized. The incentive is to do it fast but correct. ...snip
I did not know that! This is good reason to have the dealer address warranty items. If it isn't reported to Jayco, there is nothing tracked back to the process/machine/person/team that isn't doing it right.

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