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Old 03-10-2014, 11:39 AM   #1
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Seasonal Site Winter Storage Problem

Hello gang,

It's been a while since we've posted here. Here's our delima. Our 308 RETS sits on a seasonal site. We spent a ton of time early summer building up cement blocks (double walled) to make sure our TT is level. The scissor jacks barely had to come down. The TT barely wiggles when someone walks aroung inside. We winterized her, put the custom cover on it and called it a season.

We checked in on her this past weekend to find the door was open under the cover. Tried closing the door and she would not latch or stay closed even with the dead bolt.

Upon further inspection we found the tongue jack raised about 5". The blocks it was sitting sunk into the ground maybe an inch or so. The back of the TT does not look like it's sagging, so I first ask myself did someone mess with my tongue jack. The owners of the Campground are wonderful people, live on site and pay particular attention to all that goes on. So I'm ruling out this theory.

I'm thinking the door won't close because the TT is twisted on the blocks. With that said, if I release the pressure off of the blocks, will the TT straighten itself up enough for the door to latch properly. Looking at the door, it's not crooked in the frame, only at the latch area it appears to be a little to far from the striker.

I messed with the door striker and was able to latch the door and engage the dead bolt. A tempory fix.

Do I have a serious problem on my hads or a simple re-level will get everything back into play.

As always, thanks for any advice this great group give.s
John & Jaine
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:56 AM   #2
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IMO your going to have to put the TT weight back on it's axles and tongue jack to confirm if you have any issues. Close the slides before you start removing any blocks.

It sounds like winter ground frost heaving and/or ground settling took place, which can happen without the use of in-ground footings or a good level concrete pad when using concrete blocks for year round leveling.

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Old 03-10-2014, 12:29 PM   #3
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5” of frosh heave sounds like a lot of ground movement. But depending o the soil conditions and overall weather it could happen. These units are designed to flex. I do not expect you will see any long term effects from the heave. Once you get her leveled back out, everything should line up.
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Rustic Eagle & Jaygiven,

That's what I was thinking, get the TT back on the axles and re-level! 5" does sound like a lot. The TT is in North West Pa and we've had quite a winter this year. The snow and frigid temps haven't quit since Thanksgiving. FYI.. The Slides have been in since we closed her up in October!

I'm thinking about running back up this weekend and taking the unit of the blocks and full weight back on the Axles before we open back up on May 1st. I just have some of the load off the springs, but not all of it (wheels still touching the planks on ground).

Here's another question. Maybe moving forward (winger storage) I should let the TT rest on the Axles and not the blocks. Less chance for shifting of the TT. What's your thoughts.

Thanks again!
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snip..... Maybe moving forward (winger storage) I should let the TT rest on the Axles and not the blocks....
Might be a hassle, but that's what I would do based on your recent observations.

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In the owners manual it states to only leave parked for winter with the jack down and on the tires. It says to not use the stabilizers for long-term storage.
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In the owners manual it states to only leave parked for winter with the jack down and on the tires. It says to not use the stabilizers for long-term storage.
I'm assuming "Jacks Down" means raised in the upright position?

The stabilizer jacks are used all summer (and winter) long since the TT is on a seasonal site. However, they are resting on cement blocks that I built up at each corner. The blocks are built high enough where the jacks only come down a few inches to meet the blocks.

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I believe the "jack down" is referring to the tongue jack, and the corner stabilizer jacks up during winter storage.

I would leave the corner stabilizer jacks up during winter storage even on a seasonal site do to the potential of ground heaving/settling.

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I believe the "jack down" is referring to the tongue jack, and the corner stabilizer jacks up during winter storage.

I would leave the corner stabilizer jacks up during winter storage even on a seasonal site do to the potential of ground heaving/settling.

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Bob,

That makes a lot of sense!

I'll set the TT back on it's axles when the weather breaks and hope the door goes back into place..

Thanks everyone for you advice, it's greatly appreciated..
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Yes, I meant tongue jack down, stabilizers up.
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