Jayco RV Owners Forum
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 12-02-2012, 07:59 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Kitchener, Ontario
Posts: 48
Send a message via Yahoo to Skyron
Question We are considering purchasing an Inverter for electronics when dry camping.

There are a host of inverters available. We will use it for the 24" Visio flat screen television and a lap top computer.
What are the preferances of TT owners? Will 200 or 300 watt be sufficient or make extra allowance for a contingency? Are pure sine wave inverters recommended?
Thanks in advance.

Skyron

2012 Skylark and Toyota 4 Runner with factory Tow package.
Reese 66151 WD
2 Honda 2000 generators
__________________

Skyron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 08:42 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Lander, Wyoming
Posts: 588
You will probably run down your batteries quite quickly if you use the inverter very much. The inverter, I think, take the DC from the battery and "inverts' it to AC so you can run the TV set and the computer. It's not that it cannot be done, it's just that it takes a lot out of the battery(s). You might be better served to purchase a smaller type generator, like a Honda or a Yahama to power your AC stuff, if you are in an area where you can use them. The Honda and Yahama 2000s can run your television and laptop quite easily while also charging your battery(s). Only thing is, they won't drive a normal 13,500 AC. You might be able to step up the the Yahama 2400 and it might get the AC to start and run. There will be other people on here pretty soon to help you more with your question.
__________________

jal0710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 05:03 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
RoyBraddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: King George
Posts: 2,398
I am not sure what your SKYLARK floor plan looks like but I assume it has the V front. Probably similar to this 2012 SKYLARK floorplan.


What a lot of folks will do is to get 300WATT to 600WATT PURE SINE WAVE INVERTER that has remote ON/OFF and mount in the storage bay close to your battery install. It should not be installed in same compartment as the battery but needs to be probably 5-feet or less away from it. The 12VDC cables from the INVERTER should be directly connected to the battery switch along with its dedicated covered FUSE BLOCK.

You might want to consider this typical floorplan of a trailer your size with the idea the INVERTER will be installed somewhat like shown here and then run two typical extension cords from the INVERTER to maybe the Home Entertainment center area and the bedside area. The length of the 120VAC extension cord is not an issue like the 12VDC cable is. Use an extension cord that has multiple 120VAC sockets and a separate ON/OFF switch similar to this one shown here. We plug in the home entertainment items, cell phone chargers, computer charger, NOAH WX alert radio, fan, desk lamp, motion detector items, etc. The emergency use items....




As stated by the other post the use of INVERTERs require more batteries capacity as they will load down ONE battery rather quick. What ever you pull out of the battery you have to put back in but since you have 2012 year trailer with a "three stage smart mode converter/charger" on board along with the 2KW Honda Generator you already have it will be real easy for you to keep your batteries charged up once a day with a three hour generator run time. Most places you go to camping will allow you to use your generator for this short time period during the daytime only.

I am not familar with the 2012 SKYLARK with the V nose but suspect you are limited on battery space. You would want to install two of the 6V GC2 gulf cart batteries from COSTCO or SAMs CLUB to give you a 12VDC Battery Bank system of around 200AHs with the plan in mind to connect your trailer shore power cable to your 2KW Honda generator at 8AM each morning when camping off the power grid to allow the on-board smart mode converter/charger system re-charge you batteries backup to their 90% charge state so you can do this all over again the next day/night camping run.

This is how we do it here with a 255AH battery bank and are very successful camping off the power grid up to a week or so and can run everything we normally use at regular electric camp sites from the 120VAC and 12VDC appliances except the air conditioner and the high wattage microwave. I will draw around 20AMPS of 12VDC from my battery bank between the 8PM to 11PM time slot and then around 1 AMP thru the rest of the night until 8AM the next morning when I am allowed to run the 2KW Honda generator to re-charge the battey bank. We watch HDTV, plays DVDs, I play with my ham radio some, momabear uses an electric blanket on her lap if it is cool, run all the interior LED lights we need, run all CFL exterior lights we need.

Note in my floorplan (tent beds not shown) I have two locations where a multi-purpose 120VAC extension cord is secured to the back of a cabinet top location which provides me with two 120VAC "Emergency Power" drops from my INVERTER. This is the only part visible as the cords are hid by the use of the wiremode products (LOWES) . I use a 600W PSW INVERTER now for the two 120VAC drop cords shown here. Your 300W-400W should do just fine. My PSW INVERTERS are AIMS from THE INVERTER STORE.


I would definitely use the pure sign wave INVERTER as this will give you peace of mind that nothing is going to go up in blue smoke. Using the MSW type Inverter will probably run most of your items but the PSW Inverter will run them all without burning them up. The price of the PSW type are now cheap enough to purchase as compared to just a few years back.

All of this submitted for "FOOD FOR THOUGHT" Works good for us camping off the power grid.

Roy Ken
__________________
Roy and Carolyn
I claim Horse Creek Country in Southern Ill - Momabear is from North Texas
We live in King George VA
RETIRED DOD DOAF DON CONTRACTOR Electronics Tech 42YRS

"We're burning daylight" - John Wayne
2008 STARCRAFT 14RT OFF-ROAD POPUP with PD9260C and three 85AH 12VDC batteries
2010 F150 FX4 5.4 GAS with 3.73 gears - Super Cab - Towing Package - 2KW Honda EU2000i Gen
K9PHT (since 1957) 146.52Mhz
"We always have a PLAN B"
RoyBraddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 09:38 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Seann45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Saskatoon Sask Canada
Posts: 9,701
I would go with a pure sine wave inverter.. but you will quickly find other uses for it so get a 1000 watt inverter... just always remember to shut it off when not in use as they all draw power just being turned on.
__________________
Seann
2004 Chev Silverado Duramax optioned past the max. 2009 Jayco Eagle 308 RLS 765 watts of solar, 6-6 volt batteries (696 amp hour), 2000 watt (4000 surge) whole house inverter.
175 days boondocking in 2017
215/2016, 211/2015, 196/14, 247/13, 193/12

Seann45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 09:52 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
RVhiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,253
I bought one of these and use it to power a 32 inch LCD TV and DirecTV box. I have three group 27 batteries; I could watch TV for 2 or 3 hours a night (and run the heater and water pump and some LED lighting) and not run my batteries below about 50%.
__________________
There's lots of advice and information in forums... sometimes it is correct. For example, all of my posts are made by a political appointee who got the job as a reward for contributions to my diesel bill.

2011 Jayco 28.5RLS; 2008 Chevy Duramax; Pullrite Superglide Hitch

RVhiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 07:09 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Lander, Wyoming
Posts: 588
But, RVhiker, I would assume you then charge the batteries back up the next day. Also, don't know if Skyron has room for three group 27s with his trailer. If he does this, I still think he will have to get a generator to charge the batteries every now and then or it just won't work for a very long period of time.
jal0710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 07:34 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
RVhiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,253
Right, we'd have to re-charge every day, or almost every day. Unfortunately unless you have a very large solar array, that's the price for using battery power.
__________________
There's lots of advice and information in forums... sometimes it is correct. For example, all of my posts are made by a political appointee who got the job as a reward for contributions to my diesel bill.

2011 Jayco 28.5RLS; 2008 Chevy Duramax; Pullrite Superglide Hitch

RVhiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 08:23 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Central California
Posts: 2,243
Quote:
Originally Posted by jal0710 View Post
If he does this, I still think he will have to get a generator to charge the batteries every now and then or it just won't work for a very long period of time.
His signature says he has 2 Honda 2kw generators already. I don't think charging is the issue...he wants AC power with out always running those Gensets.
__________________
2007 Chevy Duramax LMM/Allison
2012 Jay Flight 29QBH
2012 Jay Flight 26BH (Sold)
clubhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2012, 10:13 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Lander, Wyoming
Posts: 588
I didn't even look at his signature. Sorry about that.
jal0710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2012, 03:26 PM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Kitchener, Ontario
Posts: 48
Send a message via Yahoo to Skyron
Many Thanks for the contibutions of all your expertise (helpful words and excellent diagrams) on this subject and your time to reply.
I will add to my Christmas list a larger capacity pure sine wave inverter as recommended and install at the battery disconnect.
The posting regarding an exterior shore recepticle will also be helpful for a similar situation we have others described.
Also a posting regarding a television bracket is the solution we needed. I will anchor a stained vertical 3/4"x3" oak board against the front exterior wall attached to top and bottom between the cupboards. The wall will not support this fixture. Amazon just delivered.
Our Skylark TT is a front 'V' kitchen model.
Skyron
2012 Skylark and Toyota 4 Runner with factory package
Reese WD 66151
2 Honda 2000 Generators
__________________

Skyron is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia State Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.