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Old 10-08-2015, 12:16 PM   #1
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Toy hauler vs travel trailer

I am looking for input and would appreciate any advice.
I have been tent camping a lot with kids,9 and 4. We are looking for a camper now. We take kayaks and bikes every time. They will fit in truck bed but I am really trying to convince myself a toyhauler is the way to go. We are looking at
The 222 toyhauler and the x254. I don't want to buy one and regret not getting the other. TV is 2015 tundra crew w/ 4.30 gears and 5.7.
Thanks ahead of time
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Old 10-08-2015, 12:33 PM   #2
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Welcome to JOF and good luck on your search.

My opinion, toy haulers are nice but there's a trade off in functionality. Both look nice when compared to tenting but the smaller toy haulers sorta become sleeping in the garage. If it was my money, I'd opt for the bunks to give the little ones their own space and the larger bathroom of the X254 I think your truck is capable of both but the X254 being lighter makes it easier to get around. Again, just my .02
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Old 10-08-2015, 12:37 PM   #3
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Consider that your truck's payload is somewhere around 1,500# With the 6,000# GVW of the x254, you're looking at 600#-900# of tongue wt; leaving you only 600#-900# for cargo. Now subtract your passenger's weights and any of yours over 150# and the question is do you have enough cargo capacity left for the kayaks and bikes?
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Old 10-08-2015, 01:08 PM   #4
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I appriciate the input, I did see some jayco 26 and 28 bh I like the slick fiberglass look. The dealers down here in Louisiana don't deal much so I have been on rv direct site a lot. And I like road trips
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Old 10-08-2015, 01:10 PM   #5
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The kayaks only weigh about 60 lbs a piece and that's what I liked about x254, I could put them in front bunk room
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:55 AM   #6
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Just wondering why you are looking at the x254? Are you planning on having more kids, aka friends, stay with you? Have you possible looked at the x213? I have had both and I really liked both, the only reason we upgraded to the x254 is because we have 3 kids. The storage up front on the 213 should be plenty for your kayaks,and it is about 600lbs lighter than the 254 if weight might be an issue
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Old 10-09-2015, 09:16 AM   #7
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I have opened the E-exit window on our 23B HTT, to slide large things in and out. I have been thinking about that with the canoes on one trip, just to see how it goes.

In reality, I would prefer a roof rack for the canoes. This way when I want to go somewhere they can be loaded on top and go. Especially if we want to do a one way trip down a river, or if our campsite is not near the water?
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Old 10-09-2015, 05:02 PM   #8
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I did look at the 213x, and I do like it. But with the 2 kids I am sure they will have friends and I kinda like the separate room. I am not really worried so much about the extra weight, I think I am rated at 10,000 lbs. I have pulled a lot of trailers with tractors and bobcats and am comfortable with 8,000.
I have towed a couple bumper pull travel trailers for friends up in the oz arks and the tundra does well. The only thing worried get me about the x254 is the seating area. There are no jayco dealers within 300 miles of me and I don't know how much I will like having only the u shaped dinnette.
I guess that is why I like the octane 222, raise the beds and have a big open area.
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The nice thing about the 254 is you can put up the small table in the bunkhouse and the kids have their own game table, or you can get a TV up front and they can watch it from their bunks. We really like the u-shaped dinette, it fits our family of 5 very nicely compared to the booth table, I know some people do not like the u-shaped, but we really do
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Old 10-10-2015, 11:19 AM   #10
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Jtv, thanks for the input. I guess my question is, how comfortable is it sitting there watching tv and hanging out when the weather turns bad. How many can sit comfortable at the dinnette? Is there room to set up any folding chairs or similar thinks for seating? Redirect has several for under 18k and. 2015 for 15k. Of course it's 700 miles to pick up, but I am not opposed to it
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