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Old 11-22-2019, 01:57 PM   #1
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From what material is the non-slip decking on the ramp doors made?

It has been discussed on a few threads on this forum, and I have been told by owners of other toyhaulers at various campgrounds, the ramp door / decks on these units are not weatherproof. What good is a deck if it is not weatherproof. I contacted Jayco to verify this fact. They would neither admit or deny the fact of the doors being weatherproof. Their answer was "Thank you for contacting Jayco customer service. We advise that these be closed and not left out in the rain". Which basically means they are not weatherproof. We use our deck almost everyday we are using the rig and like the side deck down just for daylight and being able to see out. Putting these doors up and down everyday or each time we leave the campsite, is not as simple as extending and retracting awnings. It seems that the doors get at least 5 lbs heavier every year older I get.


So, I am trying to find out what type material the non-slip deck is made. Is the deck not weatherproof because it is permeable or just due to the fact that it can leak at the edge seams since the sealant does not adhere well to the non-slip deck? If I can find answers to these questions I may be able to find a better sealant or go with a commercial product such as Line-x or similar dyi product to make it weatherproof.


I have contacted Jayco with these questions and they could not supply an answer. They suggested I contact Challenger Door as they are the door manufacturer. I have placed 2 calls and an email to Challenger with no response as of yet. So in the mean time, I am posting these questions here in the hope that someone may have knowledge of this information.


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It has been discussed on a few threads on this forum, and I have been told by owners of other toyhaulers at various campgrounds, the ramp door / decks on these units are not weatherproof. What good is a deck if it is not weatherproof. I contacted Jayco to verify this fact. They would neither admit or deny the fact of the doors being weatherproof. Their answer was "Thank you for contacting Jayco customer service. We advise that these be closed and not left out in the rain". Which basically means they are not weatherproof. We use our deck almost everyday we are using the rig and like the side deck down just for daylight and being able to see out. Putting these doors up and down everyday or each time we leave the campsite, is not as simple as extending and retracting awnings. It seems that the doors get at least 5 lbs heavier every year older I get.


So, I am trying to find out what type material the non-slip deck is made. Is the deck not weatherproof because it is permeable or just due to the fact that it can leak at the edge seams since the sealant does not adhere well to the non-slip deck? If I can find answers to these questions I may be able to find a better sealant or go with a commercial product such as Line-x or similar dyi product to make it weatherproof.


I have contacted Jayco with these questions and they could not supply an answer. They suggested I contact Challenger Door as they are the door manufacturer. I have placed 2 calls and an email to Challenger with no response as of yet. So in the mean time, I am posting these questions here in the hope that someone may have knowledge of this information.

Thank you for your post. I will be following this thread in the hopes you get a response from Challenger Door (or someone else on the forum). I have a 2020, 4113 and bought it for some of the reasons you mentioned, (to use the side patio in the same way). I did read the threads on this forum re this prior to buying but figured I'd be able to "weatherproof" as well. I did reseal the edges with "Lexel" (picked it up at Lowe's), after it cured I washed my side patio and the water "pooled" at the low point edge making it look like the edge was waterproof. I let the pool of water sit for a few minutes and didn't see any absorption from the deck and then squeegeed it off. I'll post a pic of the sealant I used if I can figure out how to do it on here.
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:31 PM   #4
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I did get a reply from challenger door today. The gentleman I talked to basically said that they did make some changes in the way they build them in the last 1 to 1 1/2 years. Not sure what that change is but he also said that the door should be basically weatherproof. There is a good amount of sealant adhesive around the edges and they use a silicone on the edges where the deck meets the frame. The sealant on mine was peeling shortly after I brought it home. I re-sealed with OSI clear and it looked great initially but it started peeling in spots after about 6 months. It still looks better than the original. I may try the exel sealant or Geocel RV sealant.



The non-slip surface is a rubberized product similar to Line-X. He also claims there is nothing in the core that would absorb water.
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Old 11-25-2019, 07:37 PM   #5
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So basically, its water proof, kinda....
U can leave it open, with caution, in weather......
Everything at ur own risk thou.....
Geez, it's like a barbie house.....
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Thank you for the update. It’s only been 2 months since I put the Lexel on so I can’t say what it will look like in another 6 months but so far it’s holding up well. What product is everyone using to “silicone / calk “ the sidewall seems? There are areas that Jayco missed and I’d rather just do it myself than have the dealer do it. (I may just use the Lexel there as well).
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Seems most people here recommend the OSI Quad. My dealer recommended the Geocel RV sealant. I just applied some Geocel to see how it compares to the OSI Quad applied previously.
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Great info here! Following for futre reference as we plan to buy a 4113.
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Seems most people here recommend the OSI Quad. My dealer recommended the Geocel RV sealant. I just applied some Geocel to see how it compares to the OSI Quad applied previously.
What’s your opinion on the Geocel now that it’s been some time since you’ve had it applied?
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Application was a little easier than OSI Quad but, it hasn't been exposed long enough to tell how well it will hold up.
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I have a Octane SL222
Having repaired a hole punched through the ramp door (that’s another story) from the exterior to the Non skid black interior.
Thin fiberglass type sheet material.
Luan plywood
Dense foam type core
Luan plywood
Thin vinyl roll smooth one side nonslip rough floor type mat material
It’s all sandwich type construction ,the access for water imo is from edge which is aluminum wrapped frame. Sealing around the edge inside and out would help but water always wins eventually. It’s water resistant not weather/water proof
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Following. Interested, have same concern.
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