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Old 02-15-2014, 06:25 PM   #21
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Look forward to hearing about your spring mods ........, I spend most of my time camping under the canopy, but as I venture more into the open solar is my next step.

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Old 07-20-2014, 11:19 AM   #22
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OK, Spring has sprung and we've been camping this Summer without my ME swap out. Today I'm diving in and getting her done. I'll post pics once she is finished. What I did learn is that this is a very simple mod. I'll be installing the inverter/charger up close to my batteries in the pass-through storage under the bed and directly behind the battery bank. What I learned is I simply disconnect the shore power from where it goes into the IOTA, twist tie that to some ROMEX 10/2 & run it to the input of the inverter/charger. The output lines come directly back to the IOTA and go into where the shore power was connected. Then I turn off the circuit labeled "UTILITY & CONVERTER". Connect my DC lines appropriately to the battery bank and that's it. I spoke with technical support from Magnum Energy, IOTA & Jayco Electrical Technicians who called me back within 24 hours. I wanted all of them to confirm my plan was correct, but I owe the credit to Handy Bob, he told what to do, they all confirmed it was correct. I'll be excited to post the finished job. Stay tuned.
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:14 PM   #23
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Look forward to seeing the pics

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OK, here is what I've got so far. I'll finish tomorrow. Let me know your thoughts!

https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/members/30509-albums529.html
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Old 07-21-2014, 04:16 AM   #25
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Big Sky,

Great pics and step-by-step write-up! Your existing IOTA converter/charger setup looks just like mine and I also let it attached to the back of the Load Center.

Thanks again for the detailed information thus far.

Since this thread has evolved into a detailed "how-to", I will move the entire thread over to the "Jayco Mods" forum for increased visibility and response, but will leave a temporary "auto re-direct" in the original Travel Trailer forum.

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Finished the project last week and took it immediately on the road to test and use. We absolutely love it! If anyone has any questions on making a similar conversion, feel welcome to send any questions you have my way. Please check out the photos I posted of the mod.

Thanks.

Here are the pics!

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"and my wife requires use of her CPAP all night."
Check the cpap many convert down to 12VDC. If this is the case you can wire it directly to your battery bank and then not have to keep the energy hog inverter going all night. A Magnum Energy inverter uses 3AH with no load on it.
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Big Sky,

Excellent project completion pics and write-up! Always great to see lots of pics with mod descriptions..., makes the project more doable for us guys (myself included) that normally work with a wrench and hammer

I may have overlooked it, but what are your plans to shield the overall converter/charger and associated wiring from items put in the storage area...., I've seen some use a clear lexan panel(s).

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This thread came at a great time for me last year my converter was fried due to incorrect wiring on a shoreline power pole, over voltage took the microwave out as well. Now I need to replace the converter.

I like the idea of having an inverter to power a tv and charge the camera and phone batteries as needed. But if all I do is disconnect the converter at the breaker (remove the wires) then the converter is still connected to the DC power through the splicing that was done to install it. Since I know the converter is now bad does this make a difference? Or should I replace it cause yeah never know when you may need it and then add the inverter?

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Mike, You'll still need to install a method to re-charge the battery bank. Whether you decide to swap a like for like converter or go to the extreme that I did. I HIGHLY recommend you begin researching more advanced charging systems that use a multi-stage recharging system. The stock converters in our TT's do not do a very good job unless they have been modified to a more advanced multiple staging charger (bulk, absorption, float & equalization). There are many manufacturers of "CONVERTERS" that have the more advanced, multi-stage charging capability. That is where I recommend you start.

The other mod I would very highly recommend is a true battery monitor of some kind. These are very easy to install. See my pics from the Tri Metric 2025-RV I installed. https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/members/30509-albums488.html

A battery monitor will give you specific detail of exactly how much power you have left in your battery bank as well as allow you to monitor how many amps you are using each time you use any device in your TT. The battery indicator that comes with our TT will give you a false read of the batteries being full, when in fact they may indeed have a charge of 13.5 volts, but not a full capacity of all your amps. I installed my monitor prior to installing new inverter/charger. I was shocked after one weekend outing to find that my stock converter took nearly 3 weeks of being connected to shore power to bring my battery bank up to 100% full (volts AND amps), yet my stock battery indicator in the TT lit up to show me full batteries after only a few days.

If the only power requirements you would like is the ability to power a tv and charge phone/camera batteries, then you can add a very inexpensive inverter to invert your DC battery power into AC power. I would bet for that small requirement you could get by with with a 500-600 watt inverter, pure sine wave because of your electronics, NOT modified sine wave. I do have my previous 1000 watt pure sine inverter posted in the classifieds here on JOF, you could look at that. I would research replacing your converter with an advanced charging ability and a small inverter as your most cost efficient way to address what you posted. The research will teach you a great deal and in the end you may want to do what I did, but first weigh your options.

What I did was from a desire to create a system that would invert my entire TT so that every outlet and even my microwave & electric coffee maker could run from my batteries. It is a "whole home" inverter that has a very advanced multi-stage charger built in with it. However it is a very expensive mod. My cost with wiring & battery cables was about $2,300 + probably 14+ hours of DIY time. (mainly because I'm NOT an electrician nor a regular DIY kind of guy)

I apologize for the long explanation, but there are many things you should consider. That said, we love the way our TT now operates and allows us to make the best use of our batteries.

GOOD LUCK to you, please let us know what you decide to do.

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