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Old 02-17-2015, 10:05 AM   #11
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Thanks for the input I looked them up and they seem to have a pretty good price on Amazon and I looked at the instructions on the Timbrens web site and they are definitely simpler to install than the Airbags. And since I think I only need a little tweaking to the rear this looks like the way to go. Thanks Much.
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Old 02-18-2015, 11:31 PM   #12
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I just happen to like Timbrens too. I have a set on the front of my Tahoe to help support the plow, and have had real good luck with them. I plan on getting a set for the rear this spring to help reduce sag when towing the camper. A properly installed set of Timbrens should only allow 1/2 to 1 inch sag before being effective. Air bags, which are much more complacated to install and risk being puncured can be fully inflated and support the load 100% and maybe no sag. To each his own I guess. I have seen good reviews on both...
Yes the sag before the timbrins work is what I don't like about them. Especially for night driving as a sag on the back of the vehicle also lift the headlight beams which can reduce visability and have people flashing there lights at you. That was 1 thing I loved with my Tundra was remote adjustable headlights!
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Thanks for the input I looked them up and they seem to have a pretty good price on Amazon and I looked at the instructions on the Timbrens web site and they are definitely simpler to install than the Airbags. And since I think I only need a little tweaking to the rear this looks like the way to go. Thanks Much.
The installation instructions on the Timbrens are clear on how much clearance to leave. They have spacers if it is not right and are very helpful if you have any questions.
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Yes the sag before the timbrins work is what I don't like about them. Especially for night driving as a sag on the back of the vehicle also lift the headlight beams which can reduce visability and have people flashing there lights at you.
The OP has a bumper pull with a WDH. After the Timbren installation he should experience 90% less sag and after a quick readjustment of the WDH, all sag will be eliminated. The Timbrens will be resting on the bumpstops, tying everything together for a more stable towing experience. If towing a 5th wheel, you are correct in stating there will be the initial sag before the Timbrens engage, but as Norty said, there are spacers to combat this as well.
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The OP has a bumper pull with a WDH. After the Timbren installation he should experience 90% less sag and after a quick readjustment of the WDH, all sag will be eliminated. The Timbrens will be resting on the bumpstops, tying everything together for a more stable towing experience. If towing a 5th wheel, you are correct in stating there will be the initial sag before the Timbrens engage, but as Norty said, there are spacers to combat this as well.
Ok so everyone has their on opinions, and I am sharing mine but a couple of points to this reply:

"The OP has a bumper pull with a WDH. After the Timbren installation he should experience 90% less sag and after a quick readjustment of the WDH, all sag will be eliminated.".......if adjustment of the WDH eliminates all sag then why would any type of spring help be required!

"The Timbrens will be resting on the bumpstops, tying everything together for a more stable towing experience."........If the timbrens are sitting on the bump stops then basicly you would have the rear suspension eliminated by having hard rubber holding directly from axle to frame!

"you are correct in stating there will be the initial sag before the Timbrens engage, but as Norty said, there are spacers to combat this as well.".......so by doing this you are taking away most or almost all of the movement that the suspension is designed to do move when the vehicle hits a bump! To me this will affect the ride quality all of the time while driving the TV whether you have trailer on or not.

Again this being my opinion, I believe the air bag system is a much better system mostly because of the ajustability by changing the air pressure depending on how much weight you are carrying or none at all. the downfall is that they are a more expensive system and more complicated to install. But in my experience (after installing many of both systems) if airbags are used properly they are nearly care free and people with them are extremely pleased with their performance.

To each their own!
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Great looking setup. Congrats... Happy and safe travels.
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