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07-11-2010, 08:30 AM
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Water Getting Inside Tail Lights
We purchased a new 2010 17c last fall. Its a great little unit that's very easy to tow. Only one problem has thus far come up. The water shield above the rear drop-down bed diverts water to either side of the opening. This water then drains down the back of the camper directly onto and into the tail lights. The socket inside one fixture has already corroded to the point that the bulb has failed. Since these tail light fixtures are not designed to be sealed I can see this will be a recurring problem.
Has anyone experienced this kind of problem with cheap tail lights and if so what is the best fix?
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07-11-2010, 09:25 AM
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Your best fix is with the dealer, particularly if you think water may be affecting the electrical & safety design of the trailer (ie. brake lights).
Another potential problem with this that I can see is much worse - if you have water entering your tail-lights, then you possibly have water getting in-between the wall of the trailer where the wires for the lights are going in. If you have water getting in between your walls you may very well end up with a rot issue.
Sounds to me like this is a design flaw which should be corrected through your warranty. Keep us posted on how things go....
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07-11-2010, 10:02 AM
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I had the same problem with our 19Bh , the dealer said they would seal between the lens and the backing plate with sealant , then when the bulb blows , you need to get a razor and cut the sealant to remove the lens to get to the bulb . Its not only Jayco that uses these tail lights , I gave up and put in LEDs , they are brighter and sealed from the weather and should last a long time .
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07-11-2010, 04:10 PM
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Thanks for the heads up on this issue. I looked at the tail lights on my 2010 17Z. Looks like there is a small white drip edge on the top edge of each light; hopefully that will help prevent water penetration?
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07-11-2010, 05:10 PM
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I have a 186 sport and water was getting in the left tail light and leaking under the tub. I thought it was a plumbing or roof leak. Dealer removed and re-sealed the tail light. I still keep an eye on it.
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07-11-2010, 05:32 PM
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Hiya jiblk2! Welcome to the Jayco Owners Forum! Hope you find your answers here. Come back to interact with members here and share your experiences. We'd love to see pics of your 2010 17c
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07-12-2010, 08:30 AM
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Thanks for the ideas, I have a 196 and it does the same thing. What brand of LED's did you get Kipper?
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07-12-2010, 09:41 AM
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How come water can get in but NEVER gets out?
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07-12-2010, 09:22 PM
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17c
Our dealer says they have never had this issue come up. Unless 2010 is the first year Jayco has used an unsealed or unshielded tail light, I'm not sure I believe that statement. We will be taking the unit in this week for them to look at the problem. We'll see what they do about it.
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07-13-2010, 06:03 PM
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Hey ChuckS, I bought the Peterson Manufacturing Piranha Low Profile LEDs from northern tool , they were $39 for the pair .
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07-14-2010, 08:40 AM
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Have you tried RV"eve extensions"? It puts the water a little farther out from the side of the RV
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08-06-2010, 08:47 PM
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We have now had our dealer look at our tail lights. They said they had not seen this problem before. They have contacted Jayco and here is the deal.
Jayco told our dealer they are having complaints about this issue and are sending replacement fixtures that have been improved to correct the problem. From what they describe, it sounds like the fixture with the drip edge that is on Go Wild's 2010 17Z.
Since our original bulb failure because of corrosion, we have had the bulb in the other fixture shatter due to water contacting the bulb when it was hot.
I'm not quite understanding why Jayco would opt to produce a shielded fixture instead of a sealed fixture. We will see what they have come up and how well it works when we have the lights changed out after camping season.
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08-11-2012, 07:25 AM
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One quick fix is to drill a small hole in the bottom of the taillight lense even after sealing the top, just in case. Larry
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08-11-2012, 07:48 AM
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Unfortunately Jayco does not make the light fixtures. They are only using what is commercially available.
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08-11-2012, 07:51 AM
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Had the same problem here. The fix is to run a bead of silicone between the lens and lip across the top and halfway down the sides.
Even if you have the dealer replace the light, with the same unit, you will have the same problem.
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08-11-2012, 07:53 AM
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I took the lens off, ran a bead of silicone along the top edge and 1" down the side of each lens and reinstalled and have not had the problem again in 4 years. Keeps the water out and by not sealing the bottom if water does get in, it has a way out. Good luck.
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08-15-2012, 12:59 PM
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I used to have a 17C, and had the same issue. While camping once, during a torrential downpour, the water worked it's way from the light, through the wiring holes and actually created a rather large puddle in the rear of the camper, under the Pantry/Closet out into the main hallway, that took a few towels to soak up. It took me a few minutes (while getting soaked) to figure out the issue. The passenger side brake taillight was actually full of water. Once the storm passed, I put some ducktape on it temporarily, then sealed once I got home. Really poor design, which they have changed on the newer 17Z/17A.
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08-29-2012, 06:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jiblk2
We purchased a new 2010 17c last fall. Its a great little unit that's very easy to tow. Only one problem has thus far come up. The water shield above the rear drop-down bed diverts water to either side of the opening. This water then drains down the back of the camper directly onto and into the tail lights. The socket inside one fixture has already corroded to the point that the bulb has failed. Since these tail light fixtures are not designed to be sealed I can see this will be a recurring problem.
Has anyone experienced this kind of problem with cheap tail lights and if so what is the best fix?
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We had the same model camper 2007 model year. We had the same problems. We just purchased a 197 last week and that was the first thing I looked at. The design of the tail light base has been modified and now the top of the light cover is covered by the base of the fixture. I sprayed it with a large volume of water and it remained dry inside. I would like to see Jayco start installing LED lights but I was told by my dealer the cost of the LED lights are too expensive. How much more can they raise the cost of an RV? In the end I did end up replacing the tail lights with LED. They are nice and bright and waterproof.
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