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09-11-2017, 06:50 PM
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Microwave amps draw
We have a Sylvania SR-11092B microwave in our trailer that says in the manual that the power consumption is 1350 watts and the output is 900watts but requires a 20 amp breaker which it does have. I see on my Progressive Industries EMS that the microwave draws 16 amps continuous when in use with everything else shut off.Is 1350 watts not around 11 amps draw or am I missing something? I was hoping to be able to run the microwave at times with my Honda 2000.
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09-11-2017, 07:56 PM
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DC watts to amps calculation formula
The current I in amps (A) is equal to the power P in watts (W), divided by the voltage V in volts (V):
I(A) = P(W) / V(V)
So amps are equal to watts divided by volts.
amp = watt / volt
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09-11-2017, 08:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John H
We have a Sylvania SR-11092B microwave in our trailer that says in the manual that the power consumption is 1350 watts and the output is 900watts but requires a 20 amp breaker which it does have. I see on my Progressive Industries EMS that the microwave draws 16 amps continuous when in use with everything else shut off.Is 1350 watts not around 11 amps draw or am I missing something? I was hoping to be able to run the microwave at times with my Honda 2000.
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You are close when calling it 11 amps based on the wattage you state. Using Dkarel11's accurate formula says you're accurate. Not sure why it's on a 20 amp circuit unless they designed it to allow another smaller appliance to operate on the same circuit. 110 volts x 15 amp breaker = 1650 watts. If you use 120 volts then it = 1800 watts. With a 20 amp breaker, it's 2200 watts and 2400 watts, respectively.
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09-11-2017, 08:39 PM
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My "High Pointe" microwave, installed by Jayco, uses 1350 watts and has a power rating of 900 watts. I run it off my Honda 2000i frequently. When i run the microwave, I'm not using any other current from the generator and run it with the "EcoThrottle" off.
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09-12-2017, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVhiker
My "High Pointe" microwave, installed by Jayco, uses 1350 watts and has a power rating of 900 watts. I run it off my Honda 2000i frequently. When i run the microwave, I'm not using any other current from the generator and run it with the "EcoThrottle" off.
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Id be curious to know if you have ever measured the amp draw on it and if you have a 20 amp breaker.
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09-12-2017, 10:01 PM
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I have the "High Pointe" (900watt output/1350 input) microwave as well. It's on a dedicated 20amp circuit in the breaker box. Similar to RVHiker I run this with my Champion 2000watt inverter generator without the "Econ" mode. My Progressive EMS usually shows around 12-13amps with just the microwave which is close to tapping out the generator by itself so I make sure other loads are off when running it that way.
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09-12-2017, 10:06 PM
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you may be picking up parasitic draws...inverters, TV, radio, propane detectors etc...which could add to the draw. Typically home MW are also on a 20 circuit... If you plug your MW directly into the generator you should have no issues..if your powering up the trailer than the parasitic draws could cause an issue.
Good Luck.
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09-13-2017, 05:21 AM
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The converter is normally on all the time and has a draw that would contribute to the total amp draw.
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09-13-2017, 06:30 AM
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I run my microwave off a Honda 2000 regularly. Never had an issue.
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09-13-2017, 07:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John H
Id be curious to know if you have ever measured the amp draw on it and if you have a 20 amp breaker.
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My microwave is on a 20 amp breaker. I have never measured it's amp draw with my amp meter.
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09-13-2017, 07:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by norty1
The converter is normally on all the time and has a draw that would contribute to the total amp draw.
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John H,
In my Jayco Manual the APPROXIMATE ELECTRICAL LOAD RATINGS for 120 Volt system indicates:
Converter draws 8 Amps
Microwave draws 12 Amps.
So as norty1 mentioned, what your Progressive Industries EMS is showing is the total draw of the trailer.
I've also run the microwave using a Honda 2000i without any problems.
Hope this helps.
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09-14-2017, 11:48 AM
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Thank you all for your replies. I made sure that the EMS was showing no draw/o amps and it was showing 123 volts coming in. I am plugged into a 15amp outside receptacle using 1-25’ 10 gauge extension cord plus the rv cord so 50’ total, after turning on the microwave for 20 seconds I had 17 amps draw for a second and then 16amps for the duration and the voltage dropped 6 volts from 123 to 117.
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09-14-2017, 05:51 PM
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My EMS is a permanently installed 30AMP from Progressive Dynamics. I had a talk with them one day and was told that the ammeter built into their device is quite accurate for resistance loads, but not so much for inductive loads. I suspect the way to get an accurate amp reading on a microwave is with a hand held ammeter, and not with an EMS.
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09-14-2017, 07:34 PM
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The Kill-o-Watt meter is a handy tool for stuff like this:
Kill A Watt Meter - Electricity Usage Monitor | P3
I ran my High Point for a couple of minutes with this inline and it showed a range of between 12 and 14 amps and 1450-1650 watts over that time period. My Champion 2kw peaks at 1700 so as long as there is absolutely no other draw it squeaks it out......
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09-15-2017, 12:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVhiker
My EMS is a permanently installed 30AMP from Progressive Dynamics. I had a talk with them one day and was told that the ammeter built into their device is quite accurate for resistance loads, but not so much for inductive loads. I suspect the way to get an accurate amp reading on a microwave is with a hand held ammeter, and not with an EMS.
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I took your advice and measured the draw with an amp meter and it was just under 13 amps, so about 3 amps less than what the EMS reading was. It looks like my Honda 2000i should handle it as long as nothing else is on.
Thanks,
John
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