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Old 11-14-2011, 06:16 PM   #11
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I would wait a few years to see how the durability of this motor is....
I agree. There is no replacement for displacement. The cubic inch kind.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:49 AM   #12
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I agree. There is no replacement for displacement. The cubic inch kind.
366 ci of raw turbo charged diesel power is best...
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366cu in is good but 368 is mo betta.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:33 PM   #14
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The 3.5L V6 was one truck I wanted to seriously look at purchasing, or a used Duramax. They were priced about the same and my mechanic told me to off on the Ecoboost on account of it being in it's first year. He also told me he saw a promo they show mechanics and they had the motor running full out continuously to the point the tailpipe was glowing. The motor is rock solid and probably still running. In the end I could not afford either truck and was more than pleased to end up with the vortecmax.
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:26 PM   #15
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I have a 09 with a 5.4L, I test drove a 2011 ecoboost and didn't feel much difference except my truck sounds way better. As far as I've seen and read the mileage is about the same as what I get now:
17 city, 21 highway, and towing I get about 14.

In the end I didn't feel the advertised numbers justified me trading my truck in.
Besides all that I had a turbo go out on my F250 once-- it set me back quite a lot-- imagine replacing two!

Just my humble opinion and my personal thoughts and experiences. Get what you like/ can afford.
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:54 PM   #16
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366 ci of raw turbo charged diesel power is best...
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366cu in is good but 368 is mo betta.
I didn't know that you guys liked the 6.0 Powerstroke so much! I must say that I agree! :lizard:

Mfg - L - cu in
Dodge - 5.9 - 360
Ford - 6.0 - 366
Ford - 6.4 - 390
GM - 6.6 - 402
Dodge/Ford - 6.7 - 408
Ford - 7.3 - 445

This is using 61.023 cu in/L. Sorry for the chart being squished... the spacing doesn't translate when I hit the 'submit reply' button.
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Old 11-16-2011, 04:19 PM   #17
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I didn't know that you guys liked the 6.0 Powerstroke so much! I must say that I agree! :lizard:

Mfg - L - cu in
Dodge - 5.9 - 360
Ford - 6.0 - 366
Ford - 6.4 - 390
GM - 6.6 - 402
Dodge/Ford - 6.7 - 408
Ford - 7.3 - 445

This is using 61.023 cu in/L. Sorry for the chart being squished... the spacing doesn't translate when I hit the 'submit reply' button.

LOL, you got me.
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:41 PM   #18
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Ford - 7.3 - 445


Why oh why did they ever stop making these? They seemingly lasted forever in crab delivery trucks and got better mileage then some of their much newer replacements.. OK, I just answered my own question! I guess they lasted Tooooo long!


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Old 11-16-2011, 08:47 PM   #19
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My father's 2000 F-350 7.3L had 400,000km when he sold it and bought a 2011 6.7L F-350. Everything was original on that truck, other than a CPS sensor and the waterpump.
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While at one time I would have agreed that there was no replacement for displacement, many, if not most, of today's engines are better built, more powerful, more efficient (not as thirsty), and often last longer than the old monsters. I can remember when engines had to get "overhauled" (new rings, bearings, and seals) every 50,000 miles (yeah, I know, I'm giving my age away). I had a 429 in an old F300 crew cab that weighed less than my present F150 that got only 12 miles to the gallon highway and city and didn't have as much seat of the pants power as the 5.4L (roughly 330 ci) in my F150 which gets 19 mpg highway and 16 city (the 330 of the era was a real slug).

If one is frequently or continuously hauling large loads, then the more truck and engine, the better. But not everyone does. Often the tow vehicle gets used for towing only occasionally and, the rest of time, is a grocery getter, mom taxi, etc. I fall into that category. It would be just too expensive to maintain and feed a big diesel when I'm going to tow a trailer 200 miles or less no more than four times a year.

The newer F-150s are capable of handling pretty large loads, although not as well as the bigger trucks and engines, and are far more economical to own, feed, and maintain. They will not hold up well under continuous use but for occasional heavy use, they will suffice. I was skeptical about the Ecoboost when I first heard about it. I've since learned the engine block is built beefy enough to handle the strain and the engine doesn't have turn over high RPMs to get the power it puts out. When not working the snot out of it, it is more economical to drive than the bigger engines when not under a heavy load, especially since it is pulling around a lighter truck. The engine was torture tested by Ford, both on a dyno and under real life conditions pulling heavy loads under varying conditions.

The only serious complaints I've seen were a couple of instances of overheating (which put the engine into limp mode to protect it) when pulling a near max load up a 6% or more grade when the temperature was well over 100 degrees. In both cases, the problem occurred while running on regular and either went away when switching to premium or the problem couldn't be replicated. In both cases, the drivers had tried to maintain high speed instead of slowing down and gearing down when the temps started to rise.

There have been some complaints about the transmission but that was from a batch of bad pumps. Those failed shortly after the trucks were put into use and when they were replaced, the problem went away.
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