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02-24-2017, 09:52 PM
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Trailer Towing Feedback: 25BH
Looking at a Jayco Feather 25BH for our family of 5 (occasionally 6). We have a 2010 Ford Expedition Limited (not EL) w the HD tow package (9200# tow rating), Eaz-Lift 48058 WD hitch and Tekonsha 90195 brake controller. I want to stay between 26'-28' and under 6500# gross trailer weight to give me sufficient margin. Assuming my weight margins are good would this trailer be too long for my Expy comfortable tow? Any feedback from 25BH owners?
Thanks!
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02-25-2017, 07:03 AM
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I have a Jay Feather 24T that is 2' shorter than yours and 500lb lighter and tow with a infinity QX56 which is pretty much like ur Expy and have absolutely no problem at all towing. Equal-i-zer WHD - feel very safe and in control.
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02-25-2017, 07:57 AM
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Welcome to the forum! We tow a trailer that is similar in length. We have an Equalizer brand 4 point hitch and we feel very comfortable towing with our Sequoia. But it's only the 2 of us and our pup. You'll probably be fine as far as the trailer weight goes, but you might be over your vehicle's payload. The payload would include all passengers, fuel, cargo, hitch, etc., plus the weight of the trailer tongue. You may be close on those numbers. Just my .02 cents.
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02-25-2017, 09:56 AM
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x2 on the payload numbers being close. Check and see what your max payload is and start from there. At 6500# gross that's around 650# tongue weight, a WDH is around 75-100# and whatever you put in the Expy, people, pets, gear and fuel, go against your payload. I'm guessing you'll be fine but check the numbers.
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03-06-2017, 04:37 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. We have positive margins for payload, my concern was stability/sway of a longer TT with short wheelbase TVs, especially with TV with built-in sway control.
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03-06-2017, 06:54 AM
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We have a jay feather 25bh and pull it with a 2014 Ram 1500. Not that much use yet. Picked it up in September 100+ miles away and went on 1 trip about 300 miles round trip. With that being said, I was comfortable towing but this season I will definitely be upgrading the wdh hitch as I am using the hitch from my old jay flight. I would suggest, and I am not an expert so others please correct me if I am wrong, invest in the best wdh that you can. BTW, I did not experience sway or anything adverse. I haven't yet decided on the blue ox or equalizer.
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04-12-2017, 08:41 PM
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Thanks for everyone's input. I think that we will be good on payload w Michelin LTs @44psi. That should give me some payload margin while being aware of the axle max loads.
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04-12-2017, 08:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warjayco
Thanks for everyone's input. I think that we will be good on payload w Michelin LTs @44psi. That should give me some payload margin while being aware of the axle max loads.
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We have Michelin LT on our Yukon and run about 40-42 PSI with the camper.
Our Yukon Denali isn't the long Suburban based XL but the short one and while we have only pulled our 25BH home, it was fine even in strong winds.
I would make sure you have a good WD hitch with sway control. We went with Blue Ox but there are other good options as well. I am not too worried about it.
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04-12-2017, 09:01 PM
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A quick Google search states you have a payload of 1822 to 1895 in a 2010 Expedition. If you maxed the trailer's GVW, you could have as much as 1012 pounds of tongue weight. The 2010 Expy has a hitch receiver weight capacity of 920 pounds, which is also a factor.
If you can keep your tongue weight at 920 pounds, that leaves you 900+ pounds for passengers, dogs, beer etc.
I would feel comfortable pulling the 25BH with your TV.
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04-12-2017, 09:10 PM
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Thanks Murff/sennister
I want to keep the trailer payload down, I certainly don't want to max it out...at least that's how everyone starts off right??? ☺
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05-04-2017, 10:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warjayco
Thanks Murff/sennister
I want to keep the trailer payload down, I certainly don't want to max it out...at least that's how everyone starts off right??? ☺
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Did you ever check to see what your actual payload was? I looked on our 2008 Expedition Limited and it was around 1,645. Which is actually about 100lbs more than our 2015 F-150.
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05-04-2017, 01:53 PM
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Payload
If I go by the sticker on the door jamb its 1435. Payload ratings...do we open up that can of worms???
door jamb sticker:
FRONT GAWR: 3300
REAR GAWR: 4250
GVWR: 7300
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05-04-2017, 03:22 PM
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The numbers on our older Expe ('03) 5.4 2WD were a little less than yours.
GVWR 7100
Front GAWR 3150
Rear GAWR 4128
GCWR 14500
Max Tow 8950
We towed a '12 X23B. From the CAT Scale
Steer 2520
Drive 4040
TT 3820
Crunching some numbers I got:
TV :
GVW 6500
GCW 10380
TT:
GVW 4420
Tongue 600#
As you can see our rear axle was the limiting factor, we were below the R GAWR by a bit under 100#. These weights were with just the bride and myself and a little gear in the back. The tow experience was acceptable but with the big rigs passing and/or a breeze it was a bit of the tail wagging the dog but manageable.
YMMV
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05-04-2017, 04:11 PM
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Yea, it looks like the limited factor is the payload. I will have to get it on a scale to see how the weight is distributed front/rear. The LT tires (@44psi) have more load capacity rating than the rear axle. Of course with a WD hitch the front rear bias changes...
I don't want to max out the tongue weight because of the payload issues, so a tongue hitch scale may be in order for this application, just to be sure of the tongue weight before towing.
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05-04-2017, 06:21 PM
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You can visit the CAT Scale and get all your numbers. It will take 3 passes, the first is something like $12 and the next two are $3 each IIRC.
This sticky explains the weighing details:
http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f3...v-tt-3871.html
The CAT Scale is your friend.
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05-10-2017, 03:23 PM
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Your TV payload capacity and the RAWR are your major concerns.
Loaded for towing and a truck scale are the only way to determine where you stand.
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