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Old 01-30-2014, 06:06 PM   #1
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Another x17z Load Question

A while back I read on this forum about problems with the x17z single axle and it's load rating.

When I first bought my 'Z' I had a Chevy Colorado for a tow vehicle. The dealer set it up with a weight distribution hitch (not sure but I think it is a Reese- round spring bars). After a couple of trips we realized the Colorado was not truck enough so we bought a new GMC Sierra 1/2 ton, rated at about 10,000 lb towing capacity.

I have been using the WDH but am wondering if it isn't putting undue stress on the trailer axle. I re-adjusted it for the new truck and it tows well, but how much of the weight distribution is actually being put on the trailer axle? I know the standard answer is to have it weighed on a cat scale with and without the WDH, but I do not have a scale nearby. The weight of the trailer only sets the back of the truck down about a half inch. Should I not be using the WDH with this truck to save some increased axle weight on the trailer? My x17z is a 2012 model. Did Jayco change the axle to a lighter one since 2011-2012? Does anyone tow an x17z with a 1/2 ton GMC without a WDH?

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Old 01-30-2014, 07:44 PM   #2
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Hi Rick, your right...the initial response is to hit the scales.

The purpose of the WDH is to return weight to the front steering wheels of the TV. If you measure both with and without the trailer connected, what happens to your front wheel measurement?
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My 'Z' had a sticker on the axle detailing what the load rating was. You can also email Jayco with your VIN number and they'll tell you what your axle is rated for.
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Old 01-31-2014, 11:25 AM   #4
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Hi Rick, your right...the initial response is to hit the scales.

The purpose of the WDH is to return weight to the front steering wheels of the TV. If you measure both with and without the trailer connected, what happens to your front wheel measurement?
My front wheel measurement returns pretty much to normal after installing the spring bars. The WDH is doing it's thing as far as the TV is concerned. Just not sure the x17z/ full size truck combination really needs the WDH.

I guess what I am really looking at is should I be using the WDH with my new TV and if not using it will put a little less load on the trailer axle.
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Old 02-01-2014, 08:33 PM   #5
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I guess what I am really looking at is should I be using the WDH with my new TV and if not using it will put a little less load on the trailer axle.
I'm curious too. I have a Toyota Tundra (w/ e brake controller) and hoping to get the X17Z by April. I don't think I'll need the WDH. The dealer was forcing me to have it installed for $800. I think I'll take delivery of the trailer, drive it for several miles and will decide then. I'm from the Northwest. Is $20,000.00 (out the door)for a 2014 X17Z good price?
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I'm curious too. I have a Toyota Tundra (w/ e brake controller) and hoping to get the X17Z by April. I don't think I'll need the WDH. The dealer was forcing me to have it installed for $800. I think I'll take delivery of the trailer, drive it for several miles and will decide then. I'm from the Northwest. Is $20,000.00 (out the door)for a 2014 X17Z good price?
3500lbs, ~400 lb tongue, and 18.5' long. You probably don't NEED the WDH, but it's always a better experience when your steer axle feels planted. If the hitch has sway control built in, that would be the biggest benefit.
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I'm curious too. I have a Toyota Tundra (w/ e brake controller) and hoping to get the X17Z by April. I don't think I'll need the WDH. The dealer was forcing me to have it installed for $800. I think I'll take delivery of the trailer, drive it for several miles and will decide then. I'm from the Northwest. Is $20,000.00 (out the door)for a 2014 X17Z good price?
Check your Tundra's owners manual. When I had my Tundra I believe there was a statement in the manual that if the trailer was less than 5,000 then a WDH was not required.
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Thanx Heady & NewBlackDak.
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I'm curious too. I have a Toyota Tundra (w/ e brake controller) and hoping to get the X17Z by April. I don't think I'll need the WDH. The dealer was forcing me to have it installed for $800. I think I'll take delivery of the trailer, drive it for several miles and will decide then. I'm from the Northwest. Is $20,000.00 (out the door)for a 2014 X17Z good price?
I bought a 19h for 19,999. The 17 z were about 17000-18000 here in Southern Calif. They have a new 16xrb for 14999.00. Its pretty sweet!!
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Owenmae,

We bought a 2012 X17Z which was in "like new" condition here in North Carolina this past November. We paid slightly more than $11,000 including the WDH. The seller also threw in all the little extras he had purchased during the two years he used the trailer. Probably about an additional $300 worth of stuff. My opinion,from the research I did when shopping, is $20K is a very high quote.

We tow with a 2009 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi but I can't offer an opinion on the necessity for the WDH as we have used the one which came with the trailer for the two times we had it hitched up. The Ram tows the 17Z with little effort and about 12 MPG.
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