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Old 08-28-2014, 11:02 AM   #11
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I wonder if something like this would work?

http://www.amazon.com/Valterra-T58-T...words=rv+valve

I don't know much about them, but couldn't you connect this to your sewer outlet, and then leave the original grey valve open all the time, just using this removable valve?
except standard practice is to dump your black tank first then your gray tank so your inner gray valve would have to be closed.

I don't rinse with my grey because I fill the black tank up a couple of times anyway with fresh water to rinse
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:27 AM   #12
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As I understand it, the black water could black flow into the gray water tank and this could result in odor problems.
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Old 08-28-2014, 02:30 PM   #13
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except standard practice is to dump your black tank first then your gray tank so your inner gray valve would have to be closed.

I don't rinse with my grey because I fill the black tank up a couple of times anyway with fresh water to rinse
This makes sense. In this scenario, you'd almost certainly have to have some kind of rinse to make it work because you would have to dump your tanks out of order. However you do it, you'd want some way to run something down that hose to rinse the black dump out.

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As I understand it, the black water could black flow into the gray water tank and this could result in odor problems.
This doesn't make sense because your black valve would remain closed except when you're dumping. Unless the black went back up the grey when you were dumping? I don't see it happening, and I've left my grey valve open while dumping my black several times and never experienced ill effects. If you had to open the black valve and then for some reason had to close it really quick, and the Valterra add on valve was still closed, I suppose you could get some black up into the grey piping, but I see that as being quite a remote possibility. Or if you weren't paying attention and pulled the black valve without opening the Valterra add on valve, it could back flow into the grey tank. Again, some small amount of diligence will prevent this.
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As an alternative, on my valves, the black valve is tucked WAY up under the trailer and has a REALLY long handle. I wonder if you could just put a longer handle on the existing valve?
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I also have a 17c with the same problem. A longer handle will not work as the handle points downward at an odd angle. Re-piping the valve would be difficult; there is not much room.

I've had some success with a small garden rake I bring along to tend campfires. If I get it just right on the valve handle, I can shove it up or pull it down without crawling around at the poop dump. I'm thinking of making something that will grab the handle better than the rake.

What was Jayco thinking when they designed this???
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Old 09-23-2014, 05:50 AM   #16
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I also have a 17c with the same problem. A longer handle will not work as the handle points downward at an odd angle. Re-piping the valve would be difficult; there is not much room.
Does anyone have some good pics of what is going on?

Anything is re-buildable. Hacksaw off whats there and get some pipe from Home depot and some valves from camco. Wouldn't cost 75 dollars
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...Anything is re-buildable. Hacksaw off whats there and get some pipe from Home depot and some valves from camco. Wouldn't cost 75 dollars
Your first sentence is true, but the sentence following it can leave a lot to be desired once you realize the amount of work involved to accomplish the task. While it looks simple on paper, these kind of modifications can prove to be quite challenging to the backyard RV mechanic.
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Your first sentence is true, but the sentence following it can leave a lot to be desired once you realize the amount of work involved to accomplish the task. While it looks simple on paper, these kind of modifications can prove to be quite challenging to the backyard RV mechanic.
perhaps..so then I would suggest to take it to a plumber, even a first year guy could rebuild it. Might cost you an extra 50 bucks
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My Jayco 17C has the same problem. I keep a small garden rake in my pickup for tending fires and reaching things that are up inside the pickup bed. I've found that it can be used to hook the handle of the offending valve.

Changing the plumbing around looks like a nightmare; there is no room to move anything. I have thought of a remote pull handle but it would have to be mounted at 90 degrees to the current valve or it would drag on the ground. I guess I'll look more into it when the rake breaks the existing handle!
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Oops--I replied to the same question twice; sorry.
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