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Old 09-29-2015, 08:37 AM   #21
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Thanks for the info. I plan to schedule a test ride in a few weeks, if they are still available at the dealership.

Compared to a new class A gas Tiffin or Newmar, I don't think the interior is as good as a Newmar, but since I'm apt to go for long trips with numerous short stays and a few longer stays, rather than short vacations for three days or a couple of weeks, the ride is a factor at age 65 and the interior quality is good enough something like half way between entry level and full time.

Also, I think it may be a better option than a Tiffin Breeze, with better power than the Breeze and good enough ride comparably, but I'm still guessing, until I take more drives.

Whether it is a better option than something like a used 34 with comfort drive Newmar Ventana at around $100k is harder to say, but I do like the upfront engine and at idle in the lot the noise factor was not really an issue, but obviously noiser than a dp.

Good thing I'm not in a hurry and have expanded by diy skills getting my registered service tech designation and doing extended warranty inspections for part-time work during my retirement.

Also looks big enough to take my Boxer when she gets bigger.

Seems like the Seneca has matured quite a bit as a platform compared to the last couple of years of mfg.
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Old 09-29-2015, 01:02 PM   #22
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RodgerS, you will be less fatigued driving a Super C than a class A. I'm 75 and 400+ mile days are no problem in the Seneca. I felt more tired in the Tiffin. We usually take 4 week trips, not all of that time driving as we want to experience the places we go to. Longest 4 week trip was around 3,000 miles.
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Old 09-29-2015, 01:10 PM   #23
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Walt, what kind of class A are you comparing? Gas or diesel Tiffin?
Good to hear that the ride is working for you as about 400 miles a day is max for me as well and my usage would probably be similar to your.

Secondly, someone told me this is a niche MH, so I'm wondering how owner's see themselves as why they chose this MH over something else? I mean, I wonder what Jayco feels what part of the market they are aiming at?

I feel a bit like a pest, but I'm trying to work this through mentally and the 2016 Seneca visit got me rethinking this.
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Old 09-29-2015, 02:13 PM   #24
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I did 1700 miles in 3 days on the out bound side and 1700 miles in 4 days on the way back. I had rotator cuff surgery 2/11 and 4/1 and the l/r shoulder and I was hurting after the 3 days up. Part of it was the high winds in New Brunswick CA but it thought it was a good bit of effort to drive. Maybe with more miles I will learn to relax a bit more as I am sure that was the issue in the shoulders.
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Old 09-29-2015, 05:24 PM   #25
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We visited MotorHomes2Go on Grand Rapids, Michigan in August of this year. Spent an afternoon analyzing the Senecas and Dynamaxs. Evan Shephard, the salesman, showed us around and then let us alone. He was available for any questions, but no pushing. Next day we did a great test drive. Truck stop, parking lot, two lane roads and interstate driving. Fantastic!!

Working through the purchase, now! They are working with us, to our schedule. So cool! This really a great experience. I keep waiting for the bubble to pop.
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Old 09-29-2015, 05:33 PM   #26
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In August, of this year, we visited MotorHomes2Go in Grand Rapids, Michigan. They had 4 models of Senecas and some Dynmaxs. Evan Shephard, the sales rep, showed us around, answered questions and said he was available if we had questions. Spent 3 hours looking around, without being interrupted. Next morning, we drove a Seneca from a truck stop, to a back road, to an Interstate. Handled nice. Couldn't ask for a better check out.

They are now working with us through the purchase at our schedule. I keep waiting to get pinched. So far, fantastic!!!
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Old 09-29-2015, 06:04 PM   #27
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RodgerS, my Tiffin was a diesel pusher. IMO here are the differences

Drivability: in the A's, gas or pusher, you are sitting off center from the steering wheel a bit making it more difficult to position in a lane. In the A you're always checking the mirrors to make sure you're not too far to the right.

Side push: way less in the Seneca. Why I don't know as the Seneca is overall a bit taller. Gasser A is way worse. Tag axel pushers are pretty stable.

Noise: a bit more in the Seneca but not bad IMO. Exception is when the cooling fan kicks into high speed. Don't hear that in the A pusher.

Cab heating and cooling. Terrible in the A's. Was very comfortable in the Seneca at 100 ambient temp.

Lean: Even with new Bilsteins in my DP I had to take curves about 5 mph lower than the posted speed for curve. Don't get that top heavy feeling and sway in the Seneca when driven within reason.

Re niche: IMO the Seneca is more for the off grid user in how they manage power, components chosen vs staying at an RV resort. It may also be price point. Seneca also feels like its an upgrade for a gas class C vs as a class A competitor. I think most former class A owners will be disappointed with the Seneca - basement storage, living space, appointments, components, etc.
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Old 09-29-2015, 07:41 PM   #28
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A big part of the reason I bought the Seneca is the towing capacity. I tow a 7500# trailer and the Seneca does a good job here. Other than the length and the rear swing it is not much different than flat towing the Jeep.
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Old 09-29-2015, 09:00 PM   #29
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Thanks Walt and Mike. Very helpful information. Very detailed Walt, in particular the niche comment is thought provoking.

I'm beginning to take the idea of buying a new Seneca very seriously now for my particular needs.
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Old 09-30-2015, 11:20 AM   #30
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I have 13,000 miles on our Seneca approx 4000 miles towing a trailer or flat towing the jeep. We love it, very stable and comfortable driving. Heading out in a week on a 3800 mile trip towing the jeep, looking forward to it.
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