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Old 08-07-2015, 03:34 PM   #1
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Alignment / Steering

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I was at my dealer again today, issues for another thread, and they asked me how my recent alignment felt. I had the rig in last week to have the alignment adjusted as it was pulling heavily to the left from day one.

I am not 100% satisfied with the alignment done by the shop but it was significantly improved. The dealership quickly offered to take it back and do there own test drive to sort the issues out.

I mentioned to them at the time that I felt the steering was a little loose. But in all honesty have no experience driving this size vehicle so have no way to compare to what it should feel like. I have assumed all along that a vehicle of this nature would handle more loosely then any car or pickup truck that I have previously driven. In reality I am comfortable with the play in the wheel and recognize that a truck of this size needs to be "Driven" and requires constant driver attention and input. My concern is that my Bride will not feel comfortable with the play in the steering and I will have to continue the tradition of being the vehicles only driver even on the long hauls.

They mentioned that some owners add a steering stabilizer to tighten things up.

So my question is do any of you have experience in adding after market steering stabilizers and do they make much of a difference on newer JRide equipped Greyhawks?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:12 AM   #2
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So as to the alignment, it needs to have the additional parts added for more camber or caster adjustment. Jayco approved this for me and it handles much better now. I say this as I have completed an 11000 mile journey from FL to Alaska, logging in excess of 200 hours of time behind the wheel. It is much better than before.
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Here is a link to my experience adding +caster circa 2010


E350/E450 Handling Problems are caused by too little + CASTER
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Thanks guys.. Here is where my ignorance comes in... Toe is an appendage on the end of your foot and caster is a small wheel often found on the bottom of your office chair. I have no idea what either means in relation to alignment


That being said. I did take enough out of your posts to see that my issues in relation to loose steering may be related to not enough office chair wheels... I will follow up with my dealer, hopefully they will have done their own test drive when I speak to them next week.
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:40 PM   #5
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We used to have a motor home and it felt loose. It seem to have to much weight on the back lifting the front making it have the loose feel. The dealer finally put air bag on the front and rear of our motor home which help 100%. They did the same for my parents.
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Any looseness or play in the steering wheel so that you have to pay constant attention to adjust your position within your travel lane is definitely a problem. I hope they can quickly get this corrected to your satisfaction.
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Alignment terms

^^that should help out. Jayco, unless they have changed their procedures, do not modify the alignment from how they are delivered from Ford as a van cutaway chassis, As far as I know. With the added weight of the house portion of the coach, the camber is thrown off and the factory suspension cannot compensate for it. Therefore a part that Ford has is used to restore it to what it should be, and allow for normal adjustments.
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I took mine to a commercial truck tire place and they did a proper alignment. It has held true for 8000 miles. They never drove it to test it. They just knew what they were doing. I paid $180 for the alignment and an oil change. Best money I have spent on it. Mine is J-Ride equipped and drives nicely now. The wife could drive it with some coaching, it is just intimidating at first. There are definitely some "don't dos" when driving a large profile vehicle. (tailgating, sharp turns at speed, braking and turning hard, etc..)
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In my Dealers defence... They did not do the alignment themselves, they are not equipped. They took it to a local alignment shop, reportedly the only one in the area with a rack big enough to accomodate the RV. It does worry me going forward that none of the local Ford dealerships are equipped to handle my rig.

At this point the work is being done under warranty so I am somewhat in their hands as to who they are going to use. I think part of the challenge stems from the relatively low number of MH's on the road in Southern Ontario. In the past camping in this area was pretty TT heavy although I see the demographics changing which will hopefully mean imporoved service options in the future.
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I had mine aligned. They set the caster +5 and change on both sides - forget the exact numbers. After reading Harvard's thread, it makes me wonder how because I never installed the Ingalls sleeves. Improvement was negligible. Still wanders, and blows all over the place. Rarely do I have only one hand on the wheel. My wife refuses to get behind the wheel.
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