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Old 11-26-2013, 08:59 PM   #1
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1/2 Ton Towable Fifth Wheels

Does such a thing exist? It seems like manufacturers used to make smaller 5th wheels, but now they are all at least 28 feet long.

Does anyone pull their 5th wheel with a 1/2 ton? Is it even possible?

Edited to add: I just looked at the Jayco site and they have 5th wheels that they claim can be towed by a 1/2 ton. But with a GVWR of 9400lbs, I don't see a lot of 1/2 tons handling that! Our max towing capacity for our F150 V8 3:73 ratio is 9400!
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:33 PM   #2
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IMO it all boils down to one's personal loading habits and how the particular 1/2 ton is configured......, but yes, it's possible to have doable 1/2 ton towing a FW.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:00 AM   #3
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The biggest problem with 5th wheels on half tons is the pin weight. The payload capacity just isn't high enough on most half tons.
9400 lb * .15 = 1410 lb

That could already be over your payload, depending on configuration. Even if you have 1800 lb payload, that leaves you less than 400 lbs for people and stuff in the truck.
What does your door sticker say for curb weight and GVWR?
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My concern is that, even though you might be able to find a 5er with pin weight low enough to be within the 1/2 ton's payload capacity, how about its ability to stop that 5er quickly and safely in an emergency stop ? To me, that is the main argument against the 1/2 ton TV.
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:48 AM   #5
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I know I'll get plenty of rebuttal for this but first off, there is a good selection of lighter 5'ers available from different brands. Secondly, manufacturers tend to be very conservative with their capacities. We are a litigious society aren't we? For years I pulled a 25' Terry all over the West with a 1/2 ton Ford. It had the towing package with big cooling system and I had helper springs professionally installed as soon as I drove the truck off the lot. I could also carry a yard of crushed gravel (1.4) tons at highway speeds under complete control. Good stopping control depends on a variety of things, good trailer brakes with a good controller being the most vital. A heavy tow vehicle is always better, of course, but sometimes we are limited by what we have or what we can afford.
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My concern is that, even though you might be able to find a 5er with pin weight low enough to be within the 1/2 ton's payload capacity, how about its ability to stop that 5er quickly and safely in an emergency stop ? To me, that is the main argument against the 1/2 ton TV.
The trailer itself would be equipped with adequate brakes for this.
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:56 PM   #7
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Here's a good one you could tow with a 1/2 ton or even a mid-sized truck.

http://www.escapetrailer.com/Products/Escape50.aspx
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I have an Eagle HT and no way in heck would I tow it with a half ton. Even if you didn't have any hills to climb it would still suck... As far as breaking, that's done at the trailer with an electric break controller.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:22 PM   #9
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I pulled an Eagle HT 26.5RLS with the Reece Revolution pin box for two years with an F150 4x4 shortbed. I had an extra leaf added to the rear suspension and replaced the factory tires with E load range tires. The 5.4 engine did great everywhere but in the mountains. I took it over Wolf Creek Pass in Colorado and it was 1st gear and 30mph all the way up, but I didn't experience any problems other than slow going. The shorter rig was very easy to maneuver especially at service stations when refueling.
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I'm always being passed because I'm so slow I poke along in the right hand lane trying to milk an extra 1/10 of a MPG out of my rig. RVs fly by me all the time and I wave. I'm sure my Stock Super Duty Ford being built back before the manufacturers drove the torque and horsepower up a great deal has something to do with my lack of speed. Don't have any monthly payments, though.
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