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10-10-2017, 08:06 AM
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New hydraulic disc brakes excessive tire wear
Last May (2017) I ditched the stock drum brakes on my 2017 North Point (377RLBH) and installed hydraulic disc brakes. I have since pulled the trailer about 3000 miles. The brakes work well but I doubt that I have the controller adjusted optimally - there is a definite delay in the actuation and I need to apply the brakes carefully - I've 'squeaked' the tire(s) half a dozen times. Yesterday, I noticed that the right forward tire is severely worn - very little tread and what may be flat spots. I guess that overall I have about 12-15,000 miles on this trailer. The right rear tire has full tread and looks like I would expect for ~15k miles. The left rear shows excessive wear but not near as much as the rt. front. The left forward show little wear. I'm going to replace all 4 tires and hope for some recommendations from you guys with experience. Also, I'm hoping to find that I over-packed the wheel-bearing grease to some extent and discover grease on the 3 less-worn tires. Otherwise, I'm at a loss to understand why there is such a variation in the tire wear. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. [Also - where is the best place to post this??]
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10-10-2017, 08:36 AM
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My guess is that you are misaligned.
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10-10-2017, 09:33 AM
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Thanks for the reply - I hadn't considered that, but since there are several items on my new North Point that are/were miss-aligned (e.g. door latch, door hinges, powered TV mount) I suppose the axles could be off as well. I'm not knowledgeable in that regard - are they even adjustable? Can I determine if they're parallel by measuring the distance between them?
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10-10-2017, 10:21 AM
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Jim
Have you checked the calipers to see if they are operating smoothly? Almost seems like maybe you have a stuck caliper (the left one) and when you apply the brakes, only the right one is getting pressure applied to it. Just a guess.
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-10-2017, 11:09 AM
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Something wrong with the calipers is a possibility and in the next few days when I order replacement tires I'll be removing all 4 tire/wheels and can check the brake system. Later today (it's been 19 degF all morning) I'm going to photograph the tires. They're Rainier ST235/85-16 supplied by Jayco. I want to use the best (safest) tires I can find. Any reco's?
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10-10-2017, 11:29 AM
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I’ve been recommending Sailun S637 to everyone for a few years now. G-rated tires at half the cost of Goodyear
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-10-2017, 11:32 AM
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Check out the new Goodyear Endurance tire, Made in USA. I have about 6000 miles on these since purchase and they have been great. In your size its a N speed rating, Load Range E, 3.640# max load, 80 psi max.
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10-10-2017, 05:38 PM
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New hydraulic disc brakes excessive tire wear
Speaking of breaks, what does everyone have gain set at and what break setting are you using towing a 377?
2017 NorthPoint 377RLBH
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10-10-2017, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MadJoker TX
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I use heavy electric set at 8. I started off at 9.5, but have had to back off...
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10-10-2017, 05:42 PM
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You having brake issues now too? After my seals were replaced and new brake linings installed, I have my brake controller set on 7.5. My truck does not have a heavy, medium or light setting like some of the new trucks have.
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-10-2017, 06:22 PM
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New hydraulic disc brakes excessive tire wear
No break issue that I am aware of yet, more curious as to setttings. I have not been able to lock the trailer brakes with the break controller since day one and i have gone up to 7 on the gain with both medium and heavy electric setting. So was wondering if I was 2 low or maybe should be using heavy break setting with 7.5-8 gain.
2017 NorthPoint 377RLBH
2017 F350 FX4 DRW 6.7 PSD
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10-10-2017, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bookemdanno
I use heavy electric set at 8. I started off at 9.5, but have had to back off...
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Can you lock the trailer breaks with that setting from the break controller?
2017 NorthPoint 377RLBH
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGW...jCx2yKWbNHxFpQ
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10-10-2017, 06:26 PM
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I've only been able to "lock" them up on gravel. But they started getting real grabby (sorry only word I could think of), when I was hitting breaks...that's why I had to back it down to 8.
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10-10-2017, 06:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookemdanno
I've only been able to "lock" them up on gravel. But they started getting real grabby (sorry only word I could think of), when I was hitting breaks...that's why I had to back it down to 8.
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Okay, glad not only me then. I don’t really want them to lock up, but wanted to make sure I got enough break power to them. You know how drivers are, nobody wants to get stuck behind the camper so they just cut right in and had a few instances when they had to make a quick break move right after getting in front of me causing me to break hard.
2017 NorthPoint 377RLBH
2017 F350 FX4 DRW 6.7 PSD
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGW...jCx2yKWbNHxFpQ
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10-10-2017, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MadJoker TX
Okay, glad not only me then. I don’t really want them to lock up, but wanted to make sure I got enough break power to them. You know how drivers are, nobody wants to get stuck behind the camper so they just cut right in and had a few instances when they had to make a quick break move right after getting in front of me causing me to break hard.
2017 NorthPoint 377RLBH
2017 F350 FX4 DRW 6.7 PSD
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGW...jCx2yKWbNHxFpQ
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For that very reason I bought a dash camera that is constantly recording!
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10-10-2017, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bookemdanno
For that very reason I bought a dash camera that is constantly recording!
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I need to get one too. Do you have a recommendation?
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-10-2017, 07:54 PM
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My wife got it from Wal-Mart for me for last Christmas. It records in 1080p to a micro-SD Card on a continual loop. It came with a 4GB SD Card (8 mins record time in 1080p) and I upgraded it to a 32 GB card I had laying around. Has the ability to record video/audio or just video only. I do video only, because I'm sure lots of colorful words will come out of my mouth and be recorded! She said she thinks she paid $15-$20.
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10-10-2017, 07:55 PM
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Thanks Dan.
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-10-2017, 07:58 PM
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New hydraulic disc brakes excessive tire wear
I use this one, since it has a capacitor instead of a battery. After 3 battery’s in other ones exploding because in the hot sun here, I went with one with no battery.
https://www.amazon.com/A118-C-Capaci.../dp/B00SK8B47W
2017 NorthPoint 377RLBH
2017 F350 FX4 DRW 6.7 PSD
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGW...jCx2yKWbNHxFpQ
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10-10-2017, 08:00 PM
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Mine's not that fancy! Just plug the usb into a 12 volt supply.
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