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Old 02-28-2016, 05:48 PM   #31
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WHat king of MPG do you get? We are now looking at 2016 Ram 2500. We also have found a used ram 2500 diesel. This is so tough since we have never owned anything other than a 1500.
I've owned two Ram 1500s and now a Ram 2500. Once you start towing with a 250/2500 or a 350/3500, you will wonder why you didn't upgrade sooner.

I have the 5.7 Hemi with 4:10 rear. I get about 17-18 on highway without towing and 8.5 to 10.5 towing my Eagle 284BHBE.

If i have to worry about MPGs, it's time to sell everything.
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Old 02-28-2016, 05:53 PM   #32
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Each to his own on brand but from real world mpg with the diesels I think cummins seems to do better all around. I bought the 2011 F250 Diesel because in that year range and money it was the best taken care of and serviced vehicle I saw while looking and the wife loved it. I pull a 24 ft car trailer quite often and my 39 ft pull behind that weighs in around 10000 pounds loaded so I felt better with the diesel and mine is my daily driver
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Old 02-28-2016, 05:55 PM   #33
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OP, for a trailer that size a 3/4 ton truck is a great idea. By the time you get it loaded up and your truck loaded up (especially for longer trips) you will be happy to have 2300+ lbs of payload.

Any of the current offerings of the Big 3 will work great for you. Given the options you provided, I would encourage you to look at the diesel Ram. I bought a used 2015 Ram CTD last summer and LOVE it.

On the highway at 75+ mph I can get 22 mpg (mostly level highway).
Mixed driving, mostly around town I get 17. That is a lot of slowing and starting driving.
Towing my 29QBS I get about 12 mpg and usually tow at 68mph. Just finished a 2600 mile round trip to Florida and got 11.4 for the entire trip. We had some serious wind going down and a little more coming up through northern Florida and Georgia. Also from Charleston to home we picked the speed up to 70 because we were ready to get home. My father in law was towing a 28 foot Jayco, same weight, with his Chevy 6.0 and got around 7 mpg at the same speeds and conditions.
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Old 02-28-2016, 08:41 PM   #34
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We have also thought about another RAM 1500 with the 3.92 rear end. So hard to know what to do. $ are also a consideration.
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Old 02-28-2016, 08:42 PM   #35
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I know we aren't going to get great gas mileage, but I just don't want it to be much worse.
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Old 02-29-2016, 08:59 AM   #36
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We have also thought about another RAM 1500 with the 3.92 rear end. So hard to know what to do. $ are also a consideration.
In my experience, the 1/2T trucks are not cheaper than the 3/4T trucks, unless you're talking diesel. This may be especially true if you need it built a certain way.

I got into my Ram 2500 (new off the lot) for about 33K. That was about 10K off MSRP. It's more nicely equipped than my previous truck was, and MUCH more capable. I bought that truck for like 29K in 2012 IIRC. So I stepped up to 3/4T, 4x4, nicer features and 3 years newer for about 3K difference in price. I think I did pretty well.
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Old 02-29-2016, 09:47 AM   #37
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In my experience, the 1/2T trucks are not cheaper than the 3/4T trucks, unless you're talking diesel. This may be especially true if you need it built a certain way.

I got into my Ram 2500 (new off the lot) for about 33K. That was about 10K off MSRP. It's more nicely equipped than my previous truck was, and MUCH more capable. I bought that truck for like 29K in 2012 IIRC. So I stepped up to 3/4T, 4x4, nicer features and 3 years newer for about 3K difference in price. I think I did pretty well.
Same thing here. I was shopping for both 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks and got mine for about 35k new. It is the base model, but had enough options to make it close to what mid range models offer. All of the similarly equipped 1/2 tons I was looking at were within a couple thousand of what I paid.
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Wow! Those are great deals. If we could get that deal we would do it in a hearbeat. How did you get such a great price? We are working on pricing, but are not coming close to that. Help!
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Old 03-01-2016, 08:33 AM   #39
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Wow! Those are great deals. If we could get that deal we would do it in a hearbeat. How did you get such a great price? We are working on pricing, but are not coming close to that. Help!
shop, shop, shop. I scoured the internet for months (really over a year, but only in earnest for a few months) looking for the truck I wanted. Finally found it (actually 2 in the same city, same dealer group) so it was time to play ball. I went to a dealer close to me who had one I liked and he wouldn't play. I told him the price I was looking for, and could get at another dealer, and he said "if you can find that deal, you should go get it". So I shook his hand and walked out. Made the drive to go get it the following weekend after some online negotiating. It was about an hour away in another city, but well worth it. I almost lost that truck to a dealer transfer, but I was able to put some money (refundable) down to show I was serious so they'd keep it on the lot for me.

A great deal on the truck is a bit like a double-edged sword though. I felt like I got hosed a little on my trade, but I was willing to pay a little to not have to sell it myself, and the only other trade offer I got was only greater by the difference in sales tax (which the dealer knew, they always know).

Anyway, I have mostly the truck I've always wanted (I would love to have a diesel or some more options), so I'm happy. For now.
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The best negotiating tactic I have discovered is knowing what they paid for the vehicle and what factory incentives are being offered.
In Canada I use this site....
https://carcostcanada.com/

It is a great tool to keep in your back pocket. If you can negotiate down to 5% or less of what they paid for the vehicle you are doing pretty well and you know you aren't leaving extra money on the table. It will also tell you what factory incentives the dealer is getting at the time of the sale.

You must have something similar in the US.

On the daily driver side of things we actually find our F250 nicer to drive than the F150 we came from. The F250 provides more visibility and less blind spots. Yes we spend an extra 3-4 dollars on gas for every 100kms we drive empty but pulling mileage is about the same and our comfort level is much higher.

People always think that 3/4 or 12 tons are a lot larger as well and I don't think they are. Here are the stats for a F150 compared to a F250. Both are crew cab 4x4's with the 6.5 foot box.

F150 vs F250
156.8_______156.2 wheelbase
243.7_______246.8 overall length
77.3________79.7 height
79.9________79.9 width no mirrors
105.9_______104.9 width with towing mirrors

Honestly it is a wash for me unless the height is going to get you and you need to park underground. The F250 is actually narrower than the 150 by 1 inch.

Although if you are coming from a short box half ton the length difference is more significant.
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