Just ordered a 2019 27BH - Need Expedition-4th gen towing advice?

[buckslivin]

Hi -

First I want to say thank you to all the great content and advice provided in this forum.

I just put a deposit on a 27BH which is exciting and now it is time to upgrade my towing vehicle. We have a strong preference to stay with an SUV and am thinking about a 2018 Expedition MAX XLT.

Using pure published numbers, I should be within a safe range with this combination. Unfortunately I can not rely on CAT scales because I have neither the trailer nor the vehicle in my possession.

Anyone have real-world real world experience towing with an Expedition (4th gen) and a similar trailer? Any experiences you can share will be greatly appreciated.

Numbers:
Ford Expedition Max
Max tow rating: 9,000 lbs

2019 Jayco 27BH
UVW: 6015
GVWR: 7500 * I suspect my real world GVWR will be 7,000

[BJR]

Originally Posted by buckslivin

Hi -

First I want to say thank you to all the great content and advice provided in this forum.

I just put a deposit on a 27BH which is exciting and now it is time to upgrade my towing vehicle. We have a strong preference to stay with an SUV and am thinking about a 2018 Expedition MAX XLT.

Using pure published numbers, I should be within a safe range with this combination. Unfortunately I can not rely on CAT scales because I have neither the trailer nor the vehicle in my possession.

Anyone have real-world real world experience towing with an Expedition (4th gen) and a similar trailer? Any experiences you can share will be greatly appreciated.

Numbers:
Ford Expedition Max
Max tow rating: 9,000 lbs

2019 Jayco 27BH
UVW: 6015
GVWR: 7500 * I suspect my real world GVWR will be 7,000

Congrats! Need an idea of the payload capacity of the Expedition.

Are you going to Fretz?

[Sundancer330]

As BJR said watch the payload, looks like its 1750 lbs. for that Expedition. So a 7000# trailer could have a tongue weight of about 1000# leaving you 750# for the hitch and everything else you put inside, should work if you dont pack to heavy

[nighthawk87]

Need to get a 3/4 T SUV. Too much for a 1/2T chassis

[kayakterp]

I have a 2016 Jayflight BHS. Just noticed your numbers are a little different than mine. Especially with CCC
Mine has a slide - does yours (hence the bhS...S = slide)
My dry weight is 6,065 lbs. but I have a CCC of 2,185 lbs with a Gross weight of 8,250 lbs. Is yours an SLX?
Just wondering why so much difference as I tend to load mine pretty heavy?
Thanks

[buckslivin]

It does have a slide. Just to clarify...the new 27BH is a JayFeather so probably the most logical reason for the lower weight limits.

[buckslivin]

Yes, plan on buying from Fretz. Unfortunately we weren't able to align on numbers today so am in a holding pattern for a day.

[cekkk]

We are on our fourth Expedition. Latest is 3rd generation but the primary difference in the fourth generation is a little lighter body and a totally different engine transmission combination.

I would want a 3/4 ton pickup to pull that trailer. While the Expedition will handle the weight and still give you a little bit of safety margin, that all goes away if you have a large family and load up the SUV itself.

While a rose is a rose is a rose, a load is not necessarily a load. I have no qualms about pulling five or six thousand pounds on a flatbed with a total height about the height of my vehicle, but I'm not putting another five foot of sail behind me and use that same tow vehicle.

Can it? Yes. Should it???

[CharlesOK]

I tow a 2018 27rl Jay Feather Max GVW 7,000 with a 2017 Expedition with max tow package and #9200 capacity. The problem comes in when you figure your stuff in the truck and the tongue weight. Max tongue weight is #920 lbs per Ford. Scale weighed ready to travel without water and full propane is #6400. Tongue weight with a scale is 900 lbs which gives around 13% going down the road. I use a E2 hitch with 10K bars and when new changed the P rated car tires for Michelin LTX load range E for the extra capacity. When towing I pump up the tires to 50psi rear and 40psi front. I moved the spare from the back bumper to just under the front with a BAL tire carrier to shift the weight forward. I tow with only a few gallons onboard of water and the Ford 3.5 has tons of power and can pull in 6th gear on tow/haul on the flats. mpg when towing depends on which way the wind is blowing. Headwind down to 8mpg, tailwind sometimes gets 11 mpg for many miles. When not pulling, I drop the tires back to the listed 37psi and the ride is acceptable. I live in OK and have no mountains but lots of wind. You can do it is you keep your Expy load light. I travel with 2 people and in the back I have some basic tools and 2 folding chairs. Carrying capacity is the limiting factor, not max GVW. The closer you get to 13% to 15% the more stable everything becomes. I feel the trailer and at 65 mph trucks go by without upsetting the balance of the trailer. NO WHITE NUCKLES here.

[sasiki]

We have a 2008 Expedition 5.4L and a Jayflight 267bhsw. We towed the camper to a local campground a couple times before I bought a 2010 F-150 5.4L. The Expedition had the power but I feel more comfortable with the F150. I have a really weak stomach and the F150 seems to move less while towing. I think it's due to the Expedition having independent rear suspension but I don't know enough about that to be certain.

You're within limits and should be fine. My stomach just feels better with the solid axle.. I think.