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Old 09-14-2011, 08:50 AM   #31
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Bob -Thanks for your review its seriously appreciated!!!

I would have been on and replied to your post last night but my neighbor unexpectedly past away - very sad wife and kids and I were close .

for anyone that is curious or wondering the cost of weighing at a cat scale its $9.50 for the first weigh & $1.00 for each additional weigh. I watched a video on the cat scale web site for a how to or what to expect kinda thing plus the sticky thread directions on this site made it painless.

1. I will confirm my TT being "up at the hitch" before I move or reset anything.

2. Tongue Wieght- I dont normally travel with water unless im boondocking but might have to consider it as my fresh water tanks are just slightly ahead of my TT axles 90gal of water would definately help with tongue weight. after I measure and posibly reset hitch I will weigh a 4th time with full Fresh water tanks.

3. Weight Distribution- I will adjust hitch head to gain/ditribute that 140lbs.
Type O in your post -Tv front is at 5,520- should be 3,520

4. pin box is flexing 1/8"- winter project - new hitch! if it moves that much while just snapping up I can only imagine how bad it moves on these roads & bridges at 70mph!!

I will have to do a little more research on the other info in your post.

Again thanks everyone for taking the time to help with this! hopefully its good Info.
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Brian,

Sorry to hear about your close family friend, my condolences.

Here are some additional thoughts after reading your recent post:

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3. Weight Distribution- I will adjust hitch head to gain/distribute that 140lbs.
When you adjust your hitch head, only move it "one notch at-a-time" (each side), you will be surprised how much a single notch movement will effect spring bar tension. Scribe a little witness mark on both sides reflecting the existing notch locations as a reference point, also make sure they match up on both sides.

I recently preformed a single notch adjustment on my 1,200lb rated Reese HP Dual Cam WDH..., do to the addition of some weight on my TT tongue (two 6V golf cart batteries, etc.).

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snip.....Type O in your post -TV front is at 5,520- should be 3,520........snip
Thanx, your correct, it should read 3,520lbs.

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4. pin box is flexing 1/8"- winter project - new hitch! if it moves that much while just snapping up I can only imagine how bad it moves on these roads & bridges at 70mph!!........snip
If it's only moving an 1/8", you should be fine. IMO a movement as much of 1/8" to 1/4" can be experienced even on the best 3rd party receivers on the heavy tongue weights. If you would have seen a movement of 1/2" or more, than I would say trash the old GM OEM receiver. I would recheck the movement again after you increase your tongue weight. Up to you if you still want to consider replacing it.

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snip..... hopefully its good Info.
Absolutely. It's great reference data for "newbies" or even the seasoned RV'er who has yet to weight their TV/TT combination. I'm sure it will be thought provoking as well for those that don't realize how fast weight can add up, and how it can influence one's TV handling towing a 9,000lb TT down the road at 65MPH.

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This has been a great read. I enjoyed following each step and your assessments. Learned a lot. The photos and the weight print outs had me analyzing where all the weight went. Thanks again.
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:43 PM   #34
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This has been a great read. I enjoyed following each step and your assessments. Learned a lot. The photos and the weight print outs had me analyzing where all the weight went. Thanks again.
Glad to hear!

I plan to Tweak , Adjust , Measure & Re-weigh before my next trip at the end of this month. so stay tuned! LOL!

Thanks to everyone for there input !!
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Take the genny off the rear bumper and place in the truck bed may help as well.
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Take the genny off the rear bumper and place in the truck bed may help as well.
Actually ................Planning on upgrading? / Downsizing? the generator this winter but will garner no weght loss maybe 20lbs lighter. going to get a honda 3000w inverter generator its a little more compact than my current . considering building a mount on the tongue in some way? need to get the genny before i can plan that out. That would put 200lbs back on the tongue but... would also be removing 220lbs from the rear which would give some tongue weight back just from removing from the rear??
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pictures of weight ratings for my 2007 2500HD GMC







Looks as if I am within my limits. 3.73's-close!
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snip.....Looks as if I am within my limits. 3.73's-close!
Yep, if your running with the 3.73 gear your just under the TV's GCWR, which is an important weight limit.

Looks like your good with the TV's GVWR, and both axle weight limits as well.

When you look into adding a little more tongue weight at least now you know that you have to be a little sensitive with how much weight you add avoiding going over the GCWR. As Lee mentioned, moving the genny to the TV box doesn't impack the TV/TT GCWR, but will lower the TT gross weight and return some weight TT weight back to the tongue. Also keep in mind the loaded condition of your TV/TT when you were at the CAT scale: "Did it represent your true ready to camp loaded weight" (passengers, any missing cargo, etc.).

I'm sure you will be able to address the additional tongue weight needed without going over the TV's GCWR, then address the required weight that needs to be returned to the TV's front axle under the revised tongue weight condition via the WDH adjustment.

Once again, great work!

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snip....would also be removing 220lbs from the rear which would give some tongue weight back just from removing from the rear??
Yes, just the act of removing the genny from the rear of the TT will in effect place some weight back on the tongue (think in terms of how a teeter-totter works). Only a CAT scale (or Sherline tongue weight scale) can confirm how much weight actually got back to the tongue, the longer the TT the less amount of weight.

Just an FYI, I purchased a Sherline LM2000 scale a couple of years ago, for me it's been a great investment (saves trips to the CAT scale), and I have pulled it out at CG's to help others as well.

http://www.sherline.com/lm.htm

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For sure! Gonna put that on my christmas list! lol!
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