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Old 02-28-2015, 11:21 AM   #1
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Will this combo work??

Hey Gang,

I generally hang out in the hybrid section as we own an X23B.

The DW and I recently bought a 2014 Ford Expy with the factory installed HD tow pkg. It has the over-sized radiator, tranny cooler and built-in brake contoller with tow sway control. It is the 4x2 and regular wheel base. I would get an Equalizer hitch with the integrated sway control.

We are looking at possibly trading the X23B for a TT. My wife and I are in our sixties and not too fond of crawling over each other in the middle of the night to use the RR. And we like the idea of a walk around bed. We are not interested in a bunk house as our grandkids go camping with their parents.

We both really like the Whitehawk 27DSRL
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According to the Ford specs, we should be able to tow up to 9,200 lbs with the HD tow pkg. The one thing that concerns me is the length of the TT. It is almost 31 feet long. Since I don't have the EL version Expy, will this combo work?? Most of our camping travels are around an hour away if that helps.

Thanks.... Gerard
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Old 02-28-2015, 12:02 PM   #2
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I wouldn't be afraid to do do it, your only at 5435 lbs. unloaded with a dry hitch weight of 510. And I'm sure you travel about 57-60 mph and at that speed and the weight of your EXP you won't even know it's there.
That White Hawk has a good amount of floor space for 2 people.
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I agree. Those Expys are tow beasts, and that trailer looks like a good match for the truck. With just the 2 of you, that looks like a nice setup.

Of course, if you're in doubt about the weights, take the Expy fully loaded to a CAT scale and do the math. Add about 1000-1500 lbs to the empty trailer (or 500-700 to the yellow weight sticker on the door of the trailer, all depending on how you load out for a trip), multiply that by 15% to get an upper end for your estimated tongue weight and see that your TV has enough payload to carry the tongue weight. Invest in a high quality WDH with integrated sway and the short wheel base of the Expy will be less of an issue.

Just my pair o' pennies, but that looks like a nice setup!
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My mom & dad just ordered the 27 DSRL. They plan on towing with a 2013 Toyota Tundra.
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Thanks fellas....

Yeah I felt pretty confident about the weights, but glad to hear some confirmations.

My one concern is the length of the TT, it's almost 31 feet long. I've seen incredible videos on youtube where the TT flipped over because the TT was too long for the TV.
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I agree with Tunce and Camper. Camper's 2nd point is also spot on (visit the CAT Scale). We towed our X23B with our '03 Expedition and it did a credible job. I do not believe it had the tow pkg and we were 200# shy of the Rear GAWR even tho we were way under the max tow weight. Doing the weigh with the 23B will also give you a hint of how much "stuff" you pack. Our first trip over the scale was intimidating but painless (thanks to advise on this board). Drive on the scale, push the intercom button and tell the person you're weighing a TT and will make 3 passes. The first pass is abt $10 and the re-weighs are $3 I think.
The CAT Scale is your friend.
The bride and I are also in our 60's and agree about the climbing over.
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The bride and I are also in our 60's and agree about the climbing over.
Same here. That reason, and the lack of a real toilet at '0 dark thirty', plus the lack of a real shower were the reasons we caved in and sold our class-B that we had for MANY years. It was fine and it didn't change, we got older.
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We are on our fourth Expedition, and now DW has a 2013 Expy with that package + 4WD. But she only tows a 16' flatbed with toys aboard, so her experience isn't comparable to what yours will be. But addressing your concern with wheelbase and TT length, I'd imagine your main concern would be crosswinds. We've crossed Indiana on I-70 many times, and if your neighborhood is that flat, you probably get some of those winds. Just take it slow if that happens and avoid white knuckling.
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If you put an equalizer hitch on you should be fine. I would NOT tow this with out some sort of additional sway control
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If they flipped it something was haywire , the only one I saw was with major crosswinds and they weren't traveling fast and had a huge trailer .... I towed a 32 footer heavier than that with a 2005 Yukon and other than its ability to do a hill without downshifting it was fine
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