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Old 07-13-2016, 02:54 PM   #21
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I've been hearing rumors about a possible 10 speed automatic in the near future for 1/2 ton trucks. I know that Jeep has an 8 speed in the Grand Cherokee and it may be available in the new Ram with the EcoDiesel. I'm keeping my eye out as that would give better towing, lower gear to get going and better mileage, as there are more gears and closer ratios to keep the engine in the "sweet spot" while towing. I know that my 6 speed auto is great at hauling my TT. I have the manual mode when I need it and will lock it in 3rd or 4th if needed. but most of the time I'm in Tow/Haul mode which changes the shift point and increases the line pressure inside the transmission. I do watch my transmission temperature closely. Last weekend it was 102 outside and my transmission got to 205 in traffic, but one we got back to open road, it dropped back to 192. Seriously considering adding a second cooler.
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Old 07-13-2016, 02:58 PM   #22
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I'll have to disagree with you here. Antilock brakes save many more lives than airbags do. The best way to not get injured in a collision is to not have a collision in the first place. Antilock brakes prevent multitudes of collisions every day.

Antilock brakes are the single greatest safety innovation in the past century of automobiles.
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I don't understand how ABS in passenger cars can be considered a 'life saving' system? Stopping distances are (slightly) longer when ABS kicks in and (theoretically) you can continue to steer the vehicle while the ABS pump is pulsing the brakes.

However, once things turn sour because you were driving too fast for the amount traction available, a collision is inevitable. If the driver didn't lift his/her foot off the brake because the whole vehicle is shuddering, then the impact might be at a lower velocity than if the wheels had locked up.

And airbags only make a real difference for fools that don't wear seat belts.

I'll give you that ABS could be the "greatest safety innovation in the past century of automobiles" since seat belts were first patented in 1885. Nothing beats staying firmly attached to the seat while the sacrificial parts are bent, twisted or torn off during a collision.

I've been in a bunch of collisions (2 where the cars were destroyed) and the only injury I have ever gotten was to my left shoulder when the air bag sent my hand into the headliner.

Being completely surrounded by explosives: Center of the steering wheel, above the window, in the 'B' pillar and the outboard side of all the seats is most disconcerting. But I will live with it since it will make a difference when a distracted/drunk in an SUV slams onto my 2013 Jetta.


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As long as I am bashing the latest tech, anyone want to chime in on the automatic braking systems? If a driver lets him/herself get THAT distracted so the car has to brake itself? WHAT ARE THEY DOING ON THE ROAD!?!?!
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My FCA product (Chrysler 200) has a ZF 9 speed. Gm already had 10 speeds in cars.

If I ever get my Corvette it will be a manual. My trucks, I will stick with Autos
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My FCA product (Chrysler 200) has a ZF 9 speed. Gm already had 10 speeds in cars.

If I ever get my Corvette it will be a manual. My trucks, I will stick with Autos
How much trailer can the 2016 ZR1 Corvette pull? Or would the Z06 be better for that?
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Even Tractor Trailers are going with Automatic Transmissions.
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How much trailer can the 2016 ZR1 Corvette pull? Or would the Z06 be better for that?
Seen Corvettes pulling snowmobile trailers before
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Even Tractor Trailers are going with Automatic Transmissions.
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I don't understand how ABS in passenger cars can be considered a 'life saving' system? Stopping distances are (slightly) longer when ABS kicks in and (theoretically) you can continue to steer the vehicle while the ABS pump is pulsing the brakes.

However, once things turn sour because you were driving too fast for the amount traction available, a collision is inevitable. If the driver didn't lift his/her foot off the brake because the whole vehicle is shuddering, then the impact might be at a lower velocity than if the wheels had locked up.

And airbags only make a real difference for fools that don't wear seat belts.

I'll give you that ABS could be the "greatest safety innovation in the past century of automobiles" since seat belts were first patented in 1885. Nothing beats staying firmly attached to the seat while the sacrificial parts are bent, twisted or torn off during a collision.

I've been in a bunch of collisions (2 where the cars were destroyed) and the only injury I have ever gotten was to my left shoulder when the air bag sent my hand into the headliner.

Being completely surrounded by explosives: Center of the steering wheel, above the window, in the 'B' pillar and the outboard side of all the seats is most disconcerting. But I will live with it since it will make a difference when a distracted/drunk in an SUV slams onto my 2013 Jetta.


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As long as I am bashing the latest tech, anyone want to chime in on the automatic braking systems? If a driver lets him/herself get THAT distracted so the car has to brake itself? WHAT ARE THEY DOING ON THE ROAD!?!?!

A couple of things....

1. Air bags are designed to work in conjunction with seat belts.

2. ABS systems do NOT cause the vehicle to shudder.

3. Modern automatic transmissions are superior to manuals in every way.


Maybe you'd be happier if we could do a search and find you a nicely restored '63 Chevy one ton truck with a granny four speed. It wouldn't have any of the modern conveniences, the brakes would suck, and it would ride like a log wagon, but you could really relish the driving experience.
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I will say I am a believer in ABS after avoiding a collision with a suddenly stopped vehicle in my lane. I was able to steer around him, avoiding other vehicles, all while riding the brakes full force the whole way.
Then I changed my underwear.
Never would have pulled that off in the pre-ABS days (the accident avoidance, not the underwear changing).


It is disconcerting to round a bend on a busy Interstate (actually what we call a 400 series here in Ontario) and find a vehicle at a full stop in your lane! I learned lock/release braking when I was young, and have used it before in panic situations, but I would have had a chance for maybe 2 pumps before the collision.
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Maybe you'd be happier if we could do a search and find you a nicely restored '63 Chevy one ton truck with a granny four speed. It wouldn't have any of the modern conveniences, the brakes would suck, and it would ride like a log wagon, but you could really relish the driving experience.
Bingo, we have a winnah!
Mike, he's found your new ride!
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