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Old 07-16-2015, 12:18 PM   #21
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FYI, i recently contacted Equalizer Hitches. I was informed the 1200 and 1400 hitch uses the same bars. They both use the 1.5" square size bars. I also contacted a couple local RV dealers and they confirmed the same thing. The only difference between the 1200 and the 1400 is the contruction (casting thickness)of the hitch head. The 1200 is 3/8" thick and the 1400 is 1/2" thick to handle higher tongue weights. I have spent considerable time searching web for answer to my question of what hitch to buy. I need a 1200 for sure, but will likely get a 1400 because same bars and same weight distribution force ability. effectively both with give the same leveling and sway control, I had the equalizer representative repeat this severals times to make sure i understood it correctly. Hopefully this helps others to understand and feel free to call equalizer to confirm.

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Great information thanks!
I am taking my trailer tomorrow into the dealer to switch from my current E2 1200 lbs to an Equilizer E 4 1400 lbs. The dealer was the same as other have posted. They spec'd the hitch on brochure dry weight of 940 lbs but I am over 1200 on actual tongue weight...Very happy with the dealer though they are only charging me the difference between the two hitches and even knocked a $100 off the new E4. I believe they are doing the install as well at no charge which would normally be about $80.

Besides not wanting to be over the max load on my hitch, my primary motivation is to gain better sway control with the E4. Was not very impressed with the sway control of the e2. Hoping there is going to be a noticeable difference.
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:16 PM   #22
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Same dry weight issue. E4 ordered

Same issue here. my trailer bought used is 930lb tongue dry weight. It came with a 1000lb equalizer. I have a Ram 1500 with rear coils. They are soft and don't handle weight same as Ford or Chev 1500s. The hitch worked well for sway but truck was on bottom when packed for trip. Had max 8 washers for hitch head tilt and bars bent pretty good. Just not big enough. Just ordered the 1400lb e4. I still don't fully expect truck to be off bottom but for safety weight rating of hitch will be adequate. Will see how it works out after set up with e4, if not good will be installing "airlift 1000" to get Ram off the floor. Will post details once hitch set up later this week. One thing I did learn, there is a lot of misunderstanding about weight distribution hitches, including that from the so called hitch experts at the RV dealers. The equalizer 1-800 tech support from web site was the best place for info. They where more than happy to talk as long as was needed to satisfy my questions and concerns. I believe I may know more now about hitches than a Couple of the RV dealers a visited.

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Old 07-23-2015, 12:54 PM   #23
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Equal-i-zer and Fastway E2 are both brands sold by Progress Mfg.
Progress MFG. Inc.

They look very similar, as you can see from the video somebody else posted..

The Equal-i-zer branded product has 4-point sway control and is made in the USA.

The Fastway E2 product has two points of sway control and is made in China.

You'll note that nowhere in the product web sites is the Equal-i-zer product referred to as E4 nor is the Fastway E2 product referred to as Equal-i-zer... but dealerships often do. Either they don't know any better or perhaps some internal part# includes those incorrect terms.
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Old 07-23-2015, 01:56 PM   #24
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Quick update. I had the E2 replaced with the Equalizer 4 point (1400). I have only towed it about 250 km with the new hitch but I have noticed a big difference regarding the sway. I had some decent cross winds and had no sway to speak of. Highly recommend going this way. Well worth the extra money.
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Old 07-27-2015, 06:11 PM   #25
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Same dealer originally set us up with the E2 for our 24 ft TT. Was not a good experience. Switched to the E4 with 1000 lb bars, made a big difference! We just returned from a 6600 mile trip and the E4 towed great in mountains and wind. I did not feel safe towing with the E2.
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What do you tow with, The Kroc? I have the E2 and thought sway was a bit excessive the first year I towed but I had a 1500. I stepped up to a 2500HD and the sway has greatly diminished. I don't think all the sway I experienced was in the hitch but in the softer suspension of the 2500HD.
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Old 07-28-2015, 07:39 AM   #27
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What do you tow with, The Kroc? I have the E2 and thought sway was a bit excessive the first year I towed but I had a 1500. I stepped up to a 2500HD and the sway has greatly diminished. I don't think all the sway I experienced was in the hitch but in the softer suspension of the 2500HD.
I have a 2014 Ford Expedition, the SUV version of the F-150 with the tow package. It's able to tow 9000 lbs. My Jayco Jayflight 24 FBS weighs about 6000 lbs loaded with a tongue weight of 800 lbs. The E2 hitch originally installed was definitely a white knuckles experience, too much sway and I could feel every passing truck. I was very pleased and relieved with the performance of the E4 hitch. In our 6600 mile trip through the Rockies, the only time I felt uncomfortable was a short stretch of a Wyoming highway on the continental divide near Rawlins WY when the wind was gusting at 40 MPH. Fortunately, it settled down as we got closer to the Tetons. Hope that helps you.
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Based on my experience with the E2, it's not a great choice for a half ton truck (or short wheel based SUV). If I had know this when we bought our TT, I would have gone with an E4. The E2 works well with the a 3/4 ton truck if you are on a budget.
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:07 AM   #29
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My new Equalizer 1400lb (4 point sway control) which replaced my 1000lb equalizer works great. I now only have 5 washers instead of the 8 washers I had with the 1000lb. I did also install an Air-Lift 1000 in the rear coils of my Ram 1500. It was recommended by an experienced RV Hitch set up guy. He said the Ram are soft in the back due to the coils. I put approx. 20psi in the bags. It holds the Ram about 1" or so higher when trailer on and packed up to go. The spring arms still have lots of tension on them and sway control is good. I realize I could have added washers and brought truck up more this way, but with 5 washers front of truck was back to pre-trailer level. I am concerned about placing too much tension on trailer tongue and truck hitch and causing damage. I have made a couple trips recently. Hit a nasty cross wind on return from last trip. The truck/trailer was definitely pushed around but no out of control sway. I found the unit pivoted on the front wheel of truck under heavy side wind gusts. The truck and trailer stayed in line. Trailer is 29ft long and 6500lbs empty, 1000lbs tongue weight. Apologies for the previous use of e2 and e4. I assumed this is slang for the 1000 and 1400lb Equalizer. My new hitch in box had no reference to E4. No mater, it is a 1400lb.
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Differences bewteen 1000, 1200 and 1400lb hitch

Just to summarize what I have learned during my hitch search and selection process for Equalizer 4 point sway control Weight distribution hitch. Thanks to the Equalizer 1-800 support from web site for most of this info

1000lbs and 12000lbs TW use the same Head.

The 1000lb has 1-3/8" square spring arm.

The 1200lb and 1400lb TW use the same spring arm regardless of different part numbers as indicated in manuals. They are a 1-1/2" square spring arm.

The only difference between the 1200 and 1400lb is the head construction. I compared the 1400 to my old 1000, The steel thickness is 1/2" instead of 3/8".

I was warned by more than one RV dealer that too big a hitch would cause a rough ride. But the guys at Equalizer said not so with in reason. For example the hot line tech was pulling a 600lb TW trailer with a 1200lbs hitch and claimed it works fine.

From my experience. If you are going to buy a 1200lb, you may as well get the 1400lbs. Same spring arm, just a stronger head.

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That's great info timbob, thanks for that. I have the 1000lb E4 on my 28BHS and am running 7 washers. Seems to be just about right although I have not verified on the scales yet. So what you are saying is that 1200lb bars will slide right into the 1000lb hitch head? Also which trailer model do you have? Mine is 5500lb empty and probably 6500 loaded so I'm pretty sure I'm under 1000lb tongue although I do have dual 6V batteries up there.
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Negative SkyBound!! My mistake and apologies. The 1000 and 1200lbs heads share the same thickness steel. But the square sockets the spring arms go into are different sizes. 1000lb is 1-3/8" square, 1200lb and 1400lb are 1-1/2" square.

From the research I did, if you need a heavier Equalizer load distributing hitch, Sell yours and buy another whole new one. They have designed them so you can't buy larger spring arms for smaller hitch. The 1200lb and 1400lb are the exception, as they are the same arms anyway with different part numbers on them.

My advise, if you need a 1200lb Equalizer 4 point sway control hitch. You may as well get the 1400lb. Same spring arms just heavier head to handle larger tongue weight. Better to be on safe side and if you a get bigger trailer later, you have a hitch to handle it. The only disadvantage is the 1400 weights a bit more than the 1200.

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I do not have a Jayco, Please don't hate me LOL! Had a 2015 White Hawk 28 footer picked out but a great deal on a 2012 Keystone Cougar 29bhs came up. Divorce deal and about $13000 cheaper than new White Hawk. It is 6500lbs dry, 930lbs TW. Add 2 30lb propane tanks and a battery, up to 1000lb TW with ease. And when packed up to camp we easily add another 200lbs plus to tongue weight. Have not verified with scale, But by how far the truck sits down and the overwhelming of the 1000lb Equalizer I am pretty sure it is at the 1200lb plus area for tongue weight.

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It's all good man, glad to have you here. Was the 1000lb hitch showing signs of being overloaded? Spring arms bending?
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Just for the record.

When I first bought my TT, they installed a 1200lb bar setup. Tongue weight is around 1300lbs. and I had 0 problems with it. I did get 1400lb bars and they fit with the existing head. But Equalizer told me I was fine with the 1200lb bar setup. Why? I don't know.
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Had Max 8 washers, spring arms were flexed pretty good and truck was still on suspension bumpers with 1000lb hitch. I did not realize the tongue weight of trailer at time. Previous owner included hitch with deal, I assumed it was big enough. After I realized issue I wanted piece of mind to have proper rated hitch. In discussion with Equalizer tech line guys, they said 1200lb would likely do job with out issue. (safety factor) But when difference between the 1200 and 1400 was explained, it only made sense to go 1400lb. I also used the Equalizer selection tool on their web site, it recommended the 1400. Especially when local RV dealer sells the 1000/1200 and 1400 for same price. $700 Canadian. All other local places wanted approx. $1000 for 1400lb.
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So I recently bought a used 28' jayco TT and talked the dealer into tossing in a complete E4 that was mounted on used trailer next to mine! This one is 1000lb bars and the one I owned on my old TT (currently for sale) was an E4 600lb bar set. My understanding and belief is that you cannot buy bigger bars as you need change as they fit the hitch head differently and therefore you need a hitch head to match the bars. Can anyone confirm or deny my belief? My 1000 lb bars wont fit in the 600lb head and the 600s would be loose in the square sockets of the 1000lb head.
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Not trying to confuse you more, but, you NEED TO CONSIDER, the BLUE OX SWAY PRO. This hitch PREVENTS SWAY from beginning. The others control sway after it's already started. The Blue Ox has an integrated sway control, no need for an exterior friction sway bar which will be worthless if it gets wet, dirty, oily, icey, etc. With the Blue Ox you can back up,,,no need to stop, get out, remove the friction sway bar, get back in. When safety is a concern, cheaper is not better, BETTER IS BETTER!!
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Not trying to confuse you more, but, you NEED TO CONSIDER, the BLUE OX SWAY PRO. This hitch PREVENTS SWAY from beginning. The others control sway after it's already started. The Blue Ox has an integrated sway control, no need for an exterior friction sway bar which will be worthless if it gets wet, dirty, oily, icey, etc. With the Blue Ox you can back up,,,no need to stop, get out, remove the friction sway bar, get back in. When safety is a concern, cheaper is not better, BETTER IS BETTER!!
This taken from Etrailer website:
Great at preventing sway by holding trailer firmly in place at the system head and along the frame.

I am using the equalizer E4 and have had no sway problems pulling my 28BHBE which is 33 feet long.
AND, I can back up with out disconnecting as well. To prevent noise, I put a Teflon plate where the spring bars go on the lift brackets.
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BillD, it has been a while since I looked into Equalizer hitches. But pls read my previous posts above. The bars aren't inter changeable. (One exception) They are matched to each head.(different square dimension) The only exception is the 1200 and 1400lb hitches use the same bars. But the 1400lb heads is heavier construction.. give the Equalizer 1-800 number a call. I had a good experince with them. Been towing many years with my set up, no issues. I can't say if the design has changed since my research.

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