Half Ton Payload Strikes Again

[bansai]

Originally Posted by Jopopsy

So in all this back and forth is there some margin of error here?

Like on my rig, its a 14500 GVWR w/ axles that can carry 14600 and tires that can go up to 15000 pounds. 1% over is 145 pounds. I'm probably not going to go out on a limb here and say 145 pounds isn't going to make my wheels fly off and have my driveshaft crumble into pieces.

Although I'm a few hundred pounds under my GVWR after my weigh-in, I'm still looking to unload some items to give me more cushion.

Yes, I think so. For non-commercial drivers, I feel most of the numbers are guidelines, ones I do my best to stay within, but I won't lose a lot of sleep if I go 2% over from time to time.

[repacs0103]

Originally Posted by bansai

Yes, I think so. For non-commercial drivers, I feel most of the numbers are guidelines, ones I do my best to stay within, but I won't lose a lot of sleep if I go 2% over from time to time.

This.

My commercial work trucks are 100% legal, driven by CDL and Chauffeur Licensed drivers as applicable with DOT medical cards, fall within all weight guidelines and every truck and trailer is PM'd every 3 months and gets an annual DOT inspection. On personal non commercial use, I'm not going to lose a minute of sleep if I'm over a little bit but I still make an effort to be close at the very least.


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[1wayhighway]

Originally Posted by kampfirekid

After much deliberation, I think the 200# I have in floor mats, bed mat, 2x6 partition in the bed of the truck, and the Leer fiberglass tonneau, I could lose 75% of the weight. Then, we could jump up to about 750# of remaining payload. At this point, I'd pull a trailer AT or slightly OVER max knowing I'm trading up in a couple years. Sometimes you just gotta weigh the circumstances and exposure. With us, our original plan was to drag a TT about 2,500 to 3,000 miles out west this summer. That I won't do, but for 5-6 times a summer for the next two summers going only a few hundred miles round trip, I have no concerns. I'm in the know. I see so many that don't have a clue dragging time bombs down the interstate. I think if it were a major issue, considering what I see on the road, we'd hear so much more. I'll take the minimal chance being extremely knowledgeable in my payload, and trade up as quickly as possible.


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Curious...The 7050 GVWR is on the door sticker? I have a 2013 f150 XLT super crew with a 5.0 and my door sticker says 7350. Wondering why they lowered the GVWR.

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[kampfirekid]

Originally Posted by 1wayhighway

Curious...The 7050 GVWR is on the door sticker? I have a 2013 f150 XLT super crew with a 5.0 and my door sticker says 7350. Wondering why they lowered the GVWR.

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Mine is a 2016. That is the GVWR for a 2016 LWB Supercrew.




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[Dropnaduece]

Originally Posted by 1wayhighway

Curious...The 7050 GVWR is on the door sticker? I have a 2013 f150 XLT super crew with a 5.0 and my door sticker says 7350. Wondering why they lowered the GVWR.

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Yup the brochure says it's 7,350 for a supercrew long or short box. For the 2016 model supercrew the GVWR is either 7,000 or 7,050 this all changed when the truck got lighter because its aluminum now and not a steel truck. The same components such as drive train but less weight with the body. Payload and towing numbers are much bigger on the 2015 models and newer and the GCWR went up 2,000-3,000 lbs because of the aluminum body. The towing capacity went up 2,000lbs as well on the 2015 or newer models. There is no way a 2016 model is 7,350 only on 2014 and older models. If you have the HDP then it would be 7.650 or 7,800 depending on rim size.

[Ottawasteve]

Originally Posted by Dropnaduece

Yup the brochure says it's 7,350 for a supercrew long or short box. For the 2016 model supercrew the GVWR is either 7,000 or 7,050 this all changed when the truck got lighter because its aluminum now and not a steel truck. The same components such as drive train but less weight with the body. Payload and towing numbers are much bigger on the 2015 models and newer and the GCWR went up 2,000-3,000 lbs because of the aluminum body. The towing capacity went up 2,000lbs as well on the 2015 or newer models. There is no way a 2016 model is 7,350 only on 2014 and older models. If you have the HDP then it would be 7.650 or 7,800 depending on rim size.

Wouldn't it be great if there was a salesman at a Ford dealership or somebody at Ford that a salesman could call to obtain accurate information about these capacity and payload issues prior to purchase ?

[bansai]

Originally Posted by Ottawasteve

Wouldn't it be great if there was a salesman at a Ford dealership or somebody at Ford that a salesman could call to obtain accurate information about these capacity and payload issues prior to purchase ?

My only request honestly is that they include the stickered weight ratings on the window sticker of the truck.

Ford, and I'm assuming most of the others, have all of the window stickers for the vehicles online. I've looked at a thousand trucks over the last few months, viewed the window stickers for all of them online, and this information is not provided.

When physically at the car lot, that's a completely different story. I know more about most of the dealer stock than the dealers do and can determine on my own, exactly what all of the relevant ratings for any said vehicle are.

I wrote a blog article on this topic of weight ratings since it comes up so often.
http://www.myrvcamping.com/2017/02/07/can-you-tow-it/

[charles_cincy]

Originally Posted by Nukeneck

With all the payload capacity talk with the F-150, I have a question. What is the actuall difference in the F-150 with standard payload and one with heavy duty payload. Is it the springs, gears, bearings, the entire rear end, axles? What is done to the Foed to give it HD payload rating?

All of that, plus a different frame! http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/im...milies/eek.gif

Thus the reason they are hard to find...they basically didn't build any in 2015...the attachment is from the F150 forum...