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Old 12-14-2016, 10:34 AM   #31
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To those who have the X254... how are you liking the dinette/bed setup? Our X213 has the small dinette with jacknife sofa across from it. We love the our coach but doesn't offer much floorspace at the rear for moving around.

If the table isn't there, does it open things up a bit? I'm certain I could convert/build something similar. Thanks!
We love the U-shaped dinette. Was a requirement when we were shopping. Our whole family (6) and even a couple extra can sit there together. When we have visitors we put a foldable chair in the open space. We always have table set up but when not using turn it sideways for easier access to bed. If it was not set up at all yes, there would be extra floor space but not sure what you'd do with it.

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Old 12-14-2016, 10:44 AM   #32
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We love the U-shaped dinette. Was a requirement when we were shopping. Our whole family (6) and even a couple extra can sit there together. When we have visitors we put a foldable chair in the open space. We always have table set up but when not using turn it sideways for easier access to bed. If it was not set up at all yes, there would be extra floor space but not sure what you'd do with it.

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Thanks for that! I'll definitely explore making this change. I wonder what I could source from Jayco directly... cushions and maybe table. I prefer building the structure myself and making it stronger.
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Old 03-11-2017, 08:40 AM   #33
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Hey everyone! New to the forum. I'm looking at X254 and have read numerous other posts on this model on this forum and can't seem to find an accurate tongue weight for the X254 when loaded with the bare minimum (propane, batteries, and maybe even some fresh water).

I'm looking to tow it with a diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 720 lbs tongue weight (would like to stay under 620 for the dog and weight distributing hitch which will lower the 720), and a max tow capacity of 7,200 lbs which most definitely won't be the limiting factor.

Any real world numbers out there for the 2016 model (which had a significant jump in tongue weight spec)? Also, with the wheels as far back on the trailer as they are would 10% tongue weight target be too little to prevent sway? In my head it would seem the further back the axles are on the trailer the better from a sway perspective....

Thanks in advance, looking to snag one sometime in the next month while they're still left.
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Honestly I think it's too much trailer for your tow vehicle. I have not weighed the tongue but to be safe you want to plan on 15% of GTWR which puts it around 1K.

We tried to do what you're doing figuring minimum tongue to tow with our Expedition. It towed it fine (except uphill we crawled a bit) but the rear sag for us was pretty bad. Maybe a jeep has better suspension. However our Expedition's tow rating was a bit more than yours at 8900#. We ended up upgrading to a 3/4 ton and it is a much more comfortable and less stressful ride!

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Hey everyone! New to the forum. I'm looking at X254 and have read numerous other posts on this model on this forum and can't seem to find an accurate tongue weight for the X254 when loaded with the bare minimum (propane, batteries, and maybe even some fresh water).

I'm looking to tow it with a diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 720 lbs tongue weight (would like to stay under 620 for the dog and weight distributing hitch which will lower the 720), and a max tow capacity of 7,200 lbs which most definitely won't be the limiting factor.

Any real world numbers out there for the 2016 model (which had a significant jump in tongue weight spec)? Also, with the wheels as far back on the trailer as they are would 10% tongue weight target be too little to prevent sway? In my head it would seem the further back the axles are on the trailer the better from a sway perspective....

Thanks in advance, looking to snag one sometime in the next month while they're still left.
Hey to you and welcome to the forum.

"In my head it would seem the further back the axles are on the trailer the better from a sway perspective...." while true, the tongue weight would increase significantly.
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