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Old 10-04-2016, 06:10 AM   #11
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As long as the numbers work out and you can get the front axle and rear axle balanced for weight with your equalizer hitch you will be doing no harm to the truck being drove sensibly imo. I put bags on my f150 since the toy hauler has a considerable amount more tounge weight than a standard travel trailer. The truck wasn't squatting bad before bags as I have an equalizer hitch as well. On my set up the bags made a huge differance on how the trailer went down the road pulling and I mean huge. From body roll of the bed in windy conditions to the overall ride inside the truck was night and day for me.
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Old 10-04-2016, 06:32 AM   #12
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Am I missing a post or 3? Seems like you're mentioning a post that I don't see.
Yes, there are a few posts that were deleted by the poster. It does make this thread seem a bit odd when you try and follow it...
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Old 10-04-2016, 08:31 AM   #13
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Here we go again, somebody who has no clue what the F150 HD Payload package is providing their "expertise" and "legal advice" about getting sued for towing a trailer with an 150 and that the Ford engineers have it all wrong because it has F150 on the side. Not all F150's have the same capabilities and ratings. The 3.5 non-turbo with 3.13 rear end does not have the same tow capacities and capabilities as the HD payload Max Tow F150 with 3.5 Eco.

Do some research on HD Payload package and stop providing inaccurate advice and questioning the intelligence of others due to your lack of knowledge !

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Well, he's exceeding his payload capacity BIG TIME, and his max combined weight rating, and the rating for his rear and front axles. The question isn't what the eco boost can pull, the question is how much weight can you put on that hitch before you destroy your truck. Your friend / i.e. the 'gentleman' is exceeding several of the max weights on that truck All of them actually, doesn't matter if it can 'pull' a freight train. You cannot have that much weight on a 150 chassis. Do so at your own legal and financial peril. Stories like this make me first want to call B.S., and second realize how stupid people can be sometimes.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the 150 max tow HD, yada yada, I own one. but the numbers you quoted are officially insane for that truck, and most likely illegal to tow. I feel really sorry for the sucker that ends up buying that guys truck on the wholesale lot in 4 months.
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Old 10-04-2016, 08:43 AM   #14
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Thanks for all the responses. The 2013 F150 I'm considering has a Max Loaded trailer weight of 11,100 lbs and a GCWR of 17,100 lbs, according to Ford specs. With my 267bhs having a GVWR of 7500 lbs it definitely looks ok on paper, even with the wife, 2 kids, 4 bicycles, and other typical camping stuff! I also plan on upgrading my hitch to an Equalizer 10,000 lb model. I just don't want to have to worry about sway. This setup should be very good, correct? Thanks again
I am towing similar weights to you with a Propride 3P hitch. I have towed with it since day 1 and have never had an issue with any sway whatsoever. If you have any concerns about sway, you can read up on the Hensley Arrow and Propride 3P hitches (similar design with common origins and operate on the same principals). They cost a little more than other WD hitches but when you are towing in the upper limits of your truck's capabilities, they are definitely worth every penny.


Other forum members have had similar experiences with the Propride/Hensley hitches:


http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f3...d-40424-3.html

You'll still have to keep an eye on the payload of your truck and avoid putting anything heavy in the box. Putting the bikes on a rack at the back of the trailer will probably free up 150lbs or so.
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Old 10-04-2016, 08:46 AM   #15
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Am I missing a post or 3? Seems like you're mentioning a post that I don't see.

I do understand about sometimes folks will either intentionally or unintentionally over load an F150 or it's equivalent.

Being a conservative guy when it comes to towing, I look at numbers as closely as I can. However, I was a couple of hundred pounds over RAWR on my trip out west pulling a 4990# GVWR TT a couple of years ago. It's one reason I traded for a F150 with MaxTow and HD pkg. My truck cargo capacity went from 1496# to 2286#.

I now have room to get a little bit larger trailer now.
Yep, he deleted them after our conversation.
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Old 10-04-2016, 08:50 AM   #16
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Here we go again, somebody who has no clue what the F150 HD Payload package is providing their "expertise" and "legal advice" about getting sued for towing a trailer with an 150 and that the Ford engineers have it all wrong because it has F150 on the side. Not all F150's have the same capabilities and ratings. The 3.5 non-turbo with 3.13 rear end does not have the same tow capacities and capabilities as the HD payload Max Tow F150 with 3.5 Eco.

Do some research on HD Payload package and stop providing inaccurate advice and questioning the intelligence of others due to your lack of knowledge !
You obviously missed the post where someone was towing a 16,000 pound 5th wheel with their F150. (he deleted it) I'll take your 'advise' on the chin, none the less, but chill out. I own the HD package and tow with it almost every day - Research Complete!.
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I did delete a post on here from something that I observed bansai pointed out that dealers or people might read this post and put someone in a rig this way. I am glad he brought this to my attention and I deleted the post immediately. My point was I was very concerned when I bought a toy hauler that the 6 banger ecoboost would have the power to pull the trailer. Lol looking back at it. You will run out of truck way before you run out of motor. Sorry for causing a ruckus on here and I should have know better than to post something that was a very dangerous rig that I observed.
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You obviously missed the post where someone was towing a 16,000 pound 5th wheel with their F150. (he deleted it) I'll take your 'advise' on the chin, none the less, but chill out. I own the HD package and tow with it almost every day - Research Complete!.
It appeared that your comments were in relation to the OP asking about towing the 26BHS with and HD Payload equipped F150. With the additional facts, I wholeheartedly agree that pulling a 16k 5th is stupid, even if the truck is equipped with the HD Package.

Everytime somebody seeks some advice or experiences about towing trailers with similar weights to ours with an F150 on this forum, they are provided with numerous posts about how they are endangering their families and everybody else on the road by towing with a half-ton and their insurance will be cancelled and they will have to pay lawsuits out of their own pocket. All of it is BS from people who have no experience with these trucks and they equate pulling a TT weighing over 5000 lbs with the guy towing the 16,000lb 5th.

The myth of the half-ton towable 5th that can be safely towed by all half-tons has sold more than a few trailers that would not have been purchased if the buyer knew they were going to need a new truck as well.
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Your post reminds me of the RV show in Richmond, VA a few years ago. This one dealer had 1/2 ton towable on almost everyone of his 5'ers. I looked at some of the weights and I though he was crazy. My then 1/2 may have been able to pull it down the road, but could it stop it. And how many multiple hundred pounds would the rear axle be over loaded.

I doubt I would have bought any thing from that dealer.

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Old 10-05-2016, 07:40 AM   #20
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Not sure I follow all of the back and forth on the thread here and I do not have a 5th wheel trailer but - having just gone through a major evaluation of my F150 towing capacity I figured I would weigh in with what I learned. I started with a 2014 F150 Platinum. Net - the F150 3.5 Ecoboost has plenty of HP to pull our trailer (265 RLSW, 6,100lb empty). Mine would easily accelerate even uphill and does not to strain at all re towing. The issue, as noted here several times, was load capacity. I, like many, only paid serious attention to the towing capacity when I purchased the first truck. I soon discovered I was at my max on load capacity with an empty trailer and the front end, even though balanced per the WD hitch specs, would float on the road. Not safe and scary to drive. I ended up moving to the 2016 F150 Platinum which gave me 600lb more load capacity and got the max tow package. Much better. Question of hauling with a 1/2 ton vs 3/4 ton is one of those perpetual debates it seems. I learned that the Ford dealership experts have no clue and will sell you whatever you want and tell you it will work. Several I talked to did not even know where to find the door tag for load and tire specs. The Ford spec sheets are hard to follow and can vary a lot from your specific truck specs. I considered the F250 but it was a beast for everyday driving, would not fit in my garage and was too hard for my wife to get in and out of.
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