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Old 10-16-2015, 12:09 PM   #1
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New F150 vs F250

We have decided on the Jay Flight 32BHDS as our next TT. We are upgrading the TV in doing so. I consistently read about the need for a 3/4 ton truck for towing such a large camper. However, I am wondering about experiences that people are having with the new F150. The configuration that I am looking at is a Super Crew V8 Gas, 6.5' bed, 4x4, max trailering. It has a rated towing capacity of 11,700#, a payload of 2,650 pounds and a GVCW of 17,100#. The travel trailer as configured has a weight of 8,400# plus we normally move about 650# in gear. All of the math I can run including people, cargo, additional payload all ends up leaving me well under the capacities of the truck. (about 14% to spare worst case) In fact the new F150 is rated very closely in capacities to the current F250. So the numbers, to me, all say it will work. But the general feeling out there is it will not. But most of that feedback is on the older F150's which the numbers do not work for those. Open to opinions and would love to hear from people with the new f150.

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Old 10-16-2015, 12:24 PM   #2
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13% of trailer weight = 1092 lbs. That comes off your vehicle payload. I just mention this because you do not say anything about TT tongue weight in your post. Did you take that into consideration as well?

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Old 10-16-2015, 12:26 PM   #3
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I Bought the new 2015 F-150 FX-4, Crew Cab, w/ the 3.5 Eco Boost w/ Max Tow package and we pull the Whitehawk 27DSRL . It has very similar towing capacity to what you have listed. I also looked at the F-250 and F-350. Since this is also my daily driver I went w/ the F-150. It pulls the trailer with no issues, carries everything we need and then some. We have some significant grades here in WA. and this truck has amazing power, is quiet and very comfortable.
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Old 10-16-2015, 01:03 PM   #4
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I have towed a 32BHDS up and down the east coast and cross country out to Washington. I cannot recommend a F-150 for this package. From your first post, you are doing your calculations at less than gross weight which is giving you your margin. I would redo those calculations using gross weight on the camper plus the tongue weight. We all think we pack light, but in reality we are probably closer to the gross weight than we think. Did you factor in propane tanks, some water in the tank for travel, some black and gray capacity in the calculations?

The 32BHDS is also pretty long and will induce sway. For this reason also I would not tow this with a half ton. A 3/4 ton, with its upgraded components and stiffer suspension, will give you a much better experience. The F-150 will move the unit and might stop it, but that is not what you are buying a tow vehicle for. You need to buy something that you will be comfortable in wind, comfortable on some hills, and most of all, something that will stay stable when the semi blows by and tries to suck you sideways when you are half asleep trying to do miles.

You also need a great weight distribution and anti-sway hitch. I used a Reese Dual Cam and was very happy once I got it set up right (the dealer mucked up the setup).
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Old 10-16-2015, 01:29 PM   #5
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/\X2/\ on all accounts. The numbers may work but real life can sometimes differ. But it is a great idea to ask others as you are doing before making a final decision. I do know that about a year ago someone on this forum had a f150 and a 32bhds he very soon bought a f250.

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Old 10-16-2015, 01:53 PM   #6
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CantCampEnuf is pulling a 32BHDS with a 2015 F150...maybe he will chime in.
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Old 10-16-2015, 02:08 PM   #7
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Tongue weight is what will kill you. Ford only rates their hitch receivers for 10% of the towing rating (idiot engineers). That puts your dangerously close to the limit. You can upgrade the hitch receiver on the F250s but you cannot on the F150s (again, idiot engineers).
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Old 10-16-2015, 02:29 PM   #8
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To get that high payload, you'll have to order it (14 to 16 weeks lead time if they have even started building that configuration yet). We purchased a new 27RLS this year and towed it with our F-150 SCREW 4X4 Ecoboost a couple of times. If the road is smooth with no wind, no problem, but get some wind involved or rough undulating roads and the towing experience sucks. The trailer being much heavier than the truck pushes it around, can't get around the physics. Ended up replacing the F-150 with an F-250 6.2L gas. Much better towing experience. If you price out an F-150 with the max payload/max tow package you'll find that a comparably equipped F-250 with the 6.2 gas engine will be about the same if not cheaper in price.
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Old 10-16-2015, 02:57 PM   #9
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Thanks for the feedback so far. I think my problem is the math seems to work, but my gut is telling me it will not. If the 2017 Super Duty was available now I don't think I would be having this discussion. That alone should tell me what I need to do.
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Old 10-16-2015, 04:50 PM   #10
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I just got a 2013 JayFlight 26BH that I towed for 1700kms this summer behind my 2014 Ram 1500 Laramie Super Crew with the 5.7 Hemi.

It certainly does the job, and I tested it on short trips and a long one across the Coquihalla.

That being said, getting passed by rigs is always something I really need to be paying attention to, and getting up the longer hills is certainly work for the truck.

I am looking seriously at flipping my truck for it's equivalent model in the 3500 with a Cummins. I will then easily out-truck my trailer and open the door to other options in the future, and my payload concerns with a few dirt bikes and gear and kids are eliminated for good.

If you are at a point where you have not made the investment in the truck yet, and if I were in your shoes, I'd get the bigger truck and never have to worry about it again.

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