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Old 09-09-2014, 01:56 AM   #31
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Sorry I was MIA!! The post got moved (which makes sense) but I wasn't getting notifications.

OK so I'll touch on a few things. I have a v6 AWD Venza and it has the required equipment for a #3500 tow. This is the method for Toyota's weight ratings:
For light-duty full-size pickups (GVWR < 8,500 lbs.), SAE J2807 assumes that the tow vehicle includes any options with higher than 33 percent penetration;
It assumes there is both a driver and passenger in the vehicle, each weighing 150 pounds;
It assumes that tow vehicles also include up to 70 pounds of aftermarket hitch equipment (where applicable); and
For conventional trailer towing, SAE J2807 assumes that 10 percent of the trailer weight is on the tongue.

No matter which option I plan to make sure the dry weight is less than 2500. That would give me 1000lbs for batteries, cargo etc. That reasonable? Also I'll make sure whatever I get is under the 350 tounge.

Next - I live in Seattle. So rain at any given time IS a possibility and unfortunately I have had to go home and set up my tent to let it dry (such as labor day weekend when a stream of water found its way under our tent.) One of the reasons I am ready to get moving on a trailer. AC would be a nice option, we often drive about 5 hours to easter washignton and have had days hit the 100s where even our tent was just too hot to be in at 8am.

I do like the hybrids. Convenience of everythign being unpacked and ready to go except the bed and I can leave that as it is and stick to the interior bed if there is rain or if we are just doing a late night stop at a rest area (or walmart as suggested, good idea!)

Some things that concern me with popups are the electrical set up, what if it gives out in the middle of nowhere? Do they all have a manual lever in the event that the electronics face an issue? If I have been driving 13 hours will I really want to go through to whole set up process. hmmmmmmmm
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:04 AM   #32
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Thanks for the suggestions on the J sport harside. I think I need to go sit in one. I feel like the sides might seem so claustrophobic!! Maybe once I'm in one it won't seem like it at all. I like the floorplan of the 12. I feel like there is a nice bit of space to move around etc.

I really liked the idea of a hi-low but those went out of business
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:14 AM   #33
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I've never used a pop up that requires electricity. Everyone I've had has a manual crank. As far as pop ups or hybrids, you still need to let them dry when packed away wet but its not a big deal as you just set them up and leave them for however many days. I had better luck with this with hybrids as there is not as much wet canvas packed into the trailer on go home day.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:19 AM   #34
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I think first towing experience with a 3500lb max TV should be started with a pop up. I truly do. I have many years of towing experience from OTR trucks to utilities trailers to our past pup(missed greatly) and now our X17A Hybrid. I tow as you can see with our Rav4 and I am at max or slightly over but I have the confidence in my driving to know what I am into. To start out with a highside trailer I do not recommend.
You should not ever be over a max weight. It's not so much about vehicle tow ability as it is liability. If you get into a wreck, even if its not "your" fault, they will probably look at the weights and capacities. If you are over you will be liable and there will be a lawyer ready to hold you accountable. Has nothing to do with your experience or ability.

Anybody can tow a small hybrid at first. Get a good hitch set up and take your time. You will learn.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:56 AM   #35
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Jessinwa, based on your specs and camping type I would suggest the SLX hybrid 16XRB. Here is my reasoning.
1. You have a bathroom accesible at all times. On or off the road.
2. Tank capacities
3. Heat and AC
4. You can still stay in the unit without putting out the tent ends.(put away dry if rain is forecast before your departure)
5. You only need to open one tent end should you need to.
5. Decent refrigerator and freezer.
6. Setup is half the time and no mechanized parts to break.
7. Weight and GVWR is within your specs.
8. Able to load and unload at home without having to open up.

I would also echo the need for a good weight distribution and sway control setup. Should you go this direction please start a new thread on that specific part as there are some very knowledgeable people here who can get you in the right direction. Best thing to do is try some on for size and get in them, but don't let the sales people tell you what is ok or not. Look at the specs for yourself. Good luck and enjoy the process.
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:25 AM   #36
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Best thing to do is try some on for size and get in them, but don't let the sales people tell you what is ok or not. Look at the specs for yourself. Good luck and enjoy the process.
A big +1 on this one. Most RV salesmen will tell you your Pinto will tow anything on their lot all day long. ALWAYS independently verify anything the salesman says. You know the old adage: "Q: How can you tell a salesman is lying? A: His lips are moving."
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You should not ever be over a max weight. It's not so much about vehicle tow ability as it is liability. If you get into a wreck, even if its not "your" fault, they will probably look at the weights and capacities. If you are over you will be liable and there will be a lawyer ready to hold you accountable. Has nothing to do with your experience or ability.

Anybody can tow a small hybrid at first. Get a good hitch set up and take your time. You will learn.
not to hijack this post but we don't have that kind of litigious society in Canada. I don't think anyone has the ability to collect all of the wreckage and weigh it. It would never happen but as I said I am accustomed to towing and when a big rig flies past me and gives me the ole suck and push I still only have one hand on the wheel and ride with the flow. An inexperienced tower may react and go in the ditch.

I still think a pup is her best option to keep enjoyment high. I truly think with a highwall trailer and the costs and worked involved she will stop camping.

Plus like I did ,just sell the pup for not much less than you paid and then upgrade if you like
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Well I doubt much would get me to stop camping I work 3 13hr days a week in the summer to spend weekends camping.

I like the idea of the hybrid!! I like the light of a popup but I do really like the idea that if the weather is garbage we could "turtle" and just snuggle up on the dinnet.

NOW the big question. In looking at various hybrids, I do like the bunk/hybrid r-pod. the bunk would give me the option to just stay on a bunk instead of put out the bed if needed - or if it was just me and the kiddo for a quick stop on a long trip. But since everyone here is Jayco lovers, I would love to know if there are problems with the r-pod so I can put that company to rest and just go with the jayco. The shape of the r-pod makes me think it might be better for driving/wind resistance.

I do plan to get a wigh distributing hitch and an anti-sway on it. I'd rather send the money on quality and doing it right than wishing I had later.

Now I *really* like the x17z floorplan quite a bit. And there is a dinnet and couch in the event its pouring buckets or something and we are just going to turtle it for the night. Its at 2785. Its a little high on my scale of size, but there is still room to give. If I keep cargo light and make sure the tanks are empty for travel, you think this would be ok?

Thanks everyone!! I'm getting very excited
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Well I doubt much would get me to stop camping I work 3 13hr days a week in the summer to spend weekends camping.

I like the idea of the hybrid!! I like the light of a popup but I do really like the idea that if the weather is garbage we could "turtle" and just snuggle up on the dinnet.

NOW the big question. In looking at various hybrids, I do like the bunk/hybrid r-pod. the bunk would give me the option to just stay on a bunk instead of put out the bed if needed - or if it was just me and the kiddo for a quick stop on a long trip. But since everyone here is Jayco lovers, I would love to know if there are problems with the r-pod so I can put that company to rest and just go with the jayco. The shape of the r-pod makes me think it might be better for driving/wind resistance.

I do plan to get a wigh distributing hitch and an anti-sway on it. I'd rather send the money on quality and doing it right than wishing I had later.

Now I *really* like the x17z floorplan quite a bit. And there is a dinnet and couch in the event its pouring buckets or something and we are just going to turtle it for the night. Its at 2785. Its a little high on my scale of size, but there is still room to give. If I keep cargo light and make sure the tanks are empty for travel, you think this would be ok?

Thanks everyone!! I'm getting very excited
I looked at the R-Pods A LOT before we decided to get a truck and a large TT. I was planning to tow it with a Nissan XTerra which would have handled it fine. I really liked the aerodynamics, the weight, and the floorplans.

Some things I had difficulty with were the "wet bath", and the price. They are VERY expensive for the size trailer you get IMO.
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We always travel with the tanks empty and fill once at the CG. Also, that leaves you 715 lbs of stuff to load into trailer. I doubt you will ever hit that. I don't think we load that much into our fifth wheel. Not to mention some stuff can be loaded into TV assuming you have extra payload. The only thing I'd be cautious of is the spec weight for the trailer. Our new fifth wheel is about 7% heavier than the brochure stated. Not a big deal but surprising. I'd go find a X17Z on the lot somewhere and check the actual sticker on it before buying or ordering.
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