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Old 05-27-2015, 03:20 PM   #31
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Like all of the other old guys on here when I get up each morning and get my coffee going then the usually the first two places I goto on the computer in the RV NET and here.

I most always try to answer things as they relate to my short comings... I also like to include alot of photos from google search. ALot of the users only give real short answers which I have never understood. Then they will say up front this in going to be a long answer or something like that. It is like they are paying for their word count or something. I don't think there is any rules written anyway saying you MUST GIVE SHORT answers.. I think the more info that is passed along the better.

Giving short comments makes it real hard to understand exactly what is being asked. Then you got three or four talking among themselves trying to decide what the OP is really asking. Just where do you go when someone says "My DC quit..."

Most of the questions are on the same subject. mostly BATTERIES and trailer weights.

One guy will ask that question and then just a few threads up the roll is another guy asking the same thing... Maybe that bother folks???

My problem sometimes is I don't read far enough into the question and miss important things. Then I give a somewhat silly answer haha...

Being retired and somewhat limited on what we can do anymore I like coming here and following the discussions...

When someone gets irate with me I usually just delete my comments and go do something else for awhile...

You can expect alot of the NEW MEMBERS asking silly things but when a OLD TIMER does it makes you wonder where they have been for the past 15 years...

Then you have the big pedigree that guys that have done things for a living for the past 50 years. They get all excited in the ends and outs of everything. I just prefer the simple ways of fixing things... Doesn't bother me a bit if my battery boost charge is at 14.2VDC verses 14.4VDC... We will get the correct results - may just take a few minutes more...

Oh well it all just makes good readings material I reckon...

I know how to make it back-off-the-road with my setup as I have been doing it for the past 5-6 years. Does this relate to all the questions - who knows...

I also try not to get involved in the bigger trailer and motorhomes. They are all a bit strange to me on how things are done. Sometimes the problems relate to each system.

I'm also hung-up on the RV TRAVELERS and the RV CAMPERS. There seems to be a difference...

I am also hung up on using generators. Everyone wants one and everywhere we go camping the management won't let us use ours when we want to. They have all these rules to contend with. But the same generator questions keep coming and coming... I am missing the boat somewhere I reckon... I think the motorhome type RV'ers get away with running their generators more then us dudes that have one in the back of the truck. There is also something different about where you live I think. East Side or West Side of the USA.

Oh well... Coffee cup gone dry...

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Old 05-27-2015, 04:10 PM   #32
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I have been a member here since 2011 and in that time I have seen a consistency of members doing their best to help other members. from time to time a few prickly people have come and gone but for the most part I believe that I would be happy to have any of the jayco forum members as next door neighbors in a campground! I hope that the friendliness of this forum continues and that everyone strives to have a mutual respect for everyone else. thanks to all the great members of this site and kudos to the moderators!!
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Old 05-27-2015, 06:08 PM   #33
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snip...... but in the last few months I have started to detect a change in tone.....snip
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I think with JOF's smaller membership size (compared to the larger RV forums) it doesn't take to much "spoilage" for the active JOF membership to pick up on it. This seems to happen in cycles and sometimes works itself out..., but I know the MODS (been there) will chime in both behind and within threads with some friendly member guidance. Sometimes it's a case of someone carrying over some 'wild-west' posting habits from other forums and hasn't caught on to the JOF friendly posting environment.

As mentioned earlier and I know you are aware of.., the "Report Post" feature is an effective way for the general JOF membership to alert MODS of any posting concerns.

But I agree, it doesn't take much effort for one to come across in a positive, informative, and non-offensive manner..., even within threads with different opinions being discussed.

I would like to believe that the JOF family friendly environment is still very much part of it's Mission Statement.

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Old 05-27-2015, 06:32 PM   #34
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I would hope that no one responds to a new member asking for help with "why don't you search before you ask" It's a lot of trouble to register on a forum and even more trouble to post a question. I assume that someone has already searched and come up empty for one reason or another.

Every forum has it's own vibe and we aim to keep this one friendly and helpful so please report problems you see and for pete's sake - help out the newbies. It's tough to be clueless
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Old 05-27-2015, 06:36 PM   #35
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I don't see the "use the search" comment as being too offensive. There is usually some explanation along with it. What I do find irritating is people commenting "Welcome to the forum, try using the search function". That is one way to turn off a new member. If you are not providing an answer, or at least usefull advice, don't comment.
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Old 05-27-2015, 07:51 PM   #36
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I see no problem in telling people to use the search function. Many people are unfamiliar with forums and the function and its a much easier way to help them quickly find a lot of info. For instance front cap fading issues. This is a new thread that seems to be started weekly. Why should the group continue to repeat itself with the same info repeatedly when the search function will show them numerous threads and replies? I personally would appreciate someone telling me about the function if I was unfamiliar with it.

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Old 05-27-2015, 07:57 PM   #37
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Some folks don't know how to do a specific search and it is easier for them to just ask for help. Here is my point, do a search of lets say kitchen faucet leak. You will get so many threads with each word in your search phrase, but if you do your search in with quotation marks ie.."kitchen faucet leak" you only get results of threads with that specific phrase. I realize it's frustrating to see the same question answered over and over, but maybe a little knowledge might help. Just my 2 cent worth.
The " " tip is interesting. I was not aware of that. Perhaps we could have something lie a search tips and techniques page. Does this forum do any stickies?

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Old 05-27-2015, 08:17 PM   #38
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The forum search function is well... lame. It's a key word search only and punctuation will break any searches. I've just set up a google custom search that may help a little - it's been added to my signature and I'll post it elsewhere. It takes you to a custom google page that will only search this site.
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Old 05-27-2015, 08:43 PM   #39
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Agreed. I provide links to related threads when possible for newbies.
I will spend quite a bit of time finding several threads that are relevant and link them so the newbie can find good info. I don't often have the answers but I'm on here so much that I know there's been a thread that will assist them.

Also, as somebody else mentioned...if you feel like somebody is not being social/polite please click the triangle and "report a post". We deal with more behind the scenes than you would ever imagine.
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The Navigator and I are not social media type of people. This is the only forum we read and participate in. I generally log in later in the evening and look at the Today's posts, reading the ones that interest me and post answers if I think I can be helpful. I look forward to seeing responses from people we have come to know over the years, as if they were a neighbour or friend and I miss them if they haven't been heard from for a while. Here's hoping all is well with them. The new members keep the site current and like me, find new information daily from the other members. If I suggest a search, it's because I am technically challenged with regard to my computer abilities.
So today I learned to use quotations with my search subject and Janet's link for the Google search caused me to figure out how to add it to my reading list on the I pad.
When someone jumps all over the person asking the question I figure they are "just not ready for people yet" or they are eating some urine soaked cornflakes and move on. It's never nice to have to deal with the meanies of the world, so thanks to the moderators for the behind the scene action. It keeps this forum in good shape, positive, friendly and family.
Thanks to those contributors that provide the technically involved diagrams, step by step answers. It's like a dedicated call centre.
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