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Old 04-03-2015, 08:14 PM   #11
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I actually made it clear that I wanted the trailer first - I did go in with my eyes wide open, I knew the Ram 1500 was not going to pull whatever I bought, so with that in mind, I figured buying the load before the rig made sense, if I've phrased that correctly -nothing at all against the dealer (so far anyway!) -I just didn't realize HOW BIG this was compared to the load ratings of the 3/4 and 1-ton trucks. I was really thinking my buddy's 1-ton would do this, but that really wasn't based on anything.

Perspective was quickly gleaned after I signed on the trailer and went to go buy the right truck. I did a search on "3210" on this site and then looked at the signatures of people who own them -that gave me reason to pause as I didn't see the specs I anticipated. I see a lot of trucks that I had dismissed as being good choices due to lower ratings... Hence my question.
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:17 PM   #12
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This may be a dumb question, but I am curious. What do they base the tow ratings on? Why is a newer truck rated so much higher than an older one?
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:20 PM   #13
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When we decided on just my Hybrid at CampingWorld in Burlington, Washington my salesman asked me what my TV would be. Even when I told him what I had he still checked what the Touareg was capable of towing before we finalized the sale. Never have I dealt with a more honest and knowledgable man( Bill Gabriel ).
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:21 PM   #14
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Well no matter what you end up with, just think of the fun and memories you and your family are going to have with this new camper. It will be worth every bit of the $100k you are going to have to spend on a tow vehicle....

.....too soon?
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I just checked that thing out, its huge. Just make sure you get the right hitch and check your height. Legal height in the us is 13'6". This rig says its 13'5". Definatly get a truck gps where you can set your height.
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I have read a ton of great reviews about the Andersen Ultimate 5th wheel hitch -100% of the people that bought it rated it 5/5 stars and it is super light, capable of withstanding more than I'd need, and I can pop it in and out myself and no rails to mess with in the bed once its out.

https://youtu.be/78l-PadWAro

And I totally agree with the sentiments here -my kids are young, (4 and 6 right now) and that is why I'm doing this -making memories. And that's worth biting the bullet on a tricked out dually 1-ton, or even an F450, as was recommended. Glad to know that I'm not nuts and bigger will be much better for this setup.

-good to know about the 13'6 height restriction -I'll have to look into the GPS you mentioned. I was just going to add in the upgrade on the Dodge truck config to have the built-in GPS Nav, but that won't acknowledge height restrictions. Never would have thought of that!
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:44 PM   #17
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This may be a dumb question, but I am curious. What do they base the tow ratings on? Why is a newer truck rated so much higher than an older one?
It is my understanding the power ratings on the diesels have really gone up in the past few years (2013-ish) as well as upgrades on brakes (and exhaust brakes) to slow down that extra weight... That's what I've been told anyway -but hey, I'm new!
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This may be a dumb question, but I am curious. What do they base the tow ratings on? Why is a newer truck rated so much higher than an older one?
This video talks about the changes in the past decade to truck capability. Interesting!

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goldenroads,

First, you can get a capable, safe tow vehicle for around $45K to $50K.


I suggest a "1-ton" dually because the pin weight will be high. I suggest you look for a 2013 to 2014. It will be important to get a "tall" year-end gear ratio if you are going to a lot of mountains. Finally, focus on the lower trim levels; leather seats and sun roofs don't influence towing capacity. I suggest diesel, crew cab, 4WD, long bed.

I suggest you use the web pricing tools of the three manufacturers.

Everyone feels their brand is the best. Just as an example, a 2015 Ram 3500, crew cab,4WD, long bed, dually, Cummins with Aisin transmission and 4:10 year-end gears in the Tradesmen trim level prices out on the website at $50K (including incentives).

It will take some effort, but I bet you can find a truck that works very well for $45K to $50K.
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Yes - I talked to a Dodge dealer today -with about $13k discount, a Tradesman 3500 comes in as a Mega Cab dually at $56k (based on phone conversations -I haven't actually been in yet, so that's probably a good sign.)

Although I admit it, I'm weak -the Practical Me will go in looking for a bargain on the Tradesman, but the "real me" will sign off on the Laramie. I know it....
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