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Old 05-04-2016, 09:57 PM   #11
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I agree Ottawa, there is a big difference in today's trucks as there are so many different configurations. The axle ratio makes a big difference in the specs. ( up to 2000lbs of towing or more and 500lbs of gvwr.) I think a lot of people that buy the trucks think they are buying an "ecoboost" so they can all tow a 11,000 lbs which Ford
Marketed brilliantly but we know that's not the case. Point being that the newer f150s can be configured to very capable and safe towing vehicles. A simpler version of
Checking your WDH if you don't have access to scales is the fender measurements. Here is mine with the weights above. You will notice with WDH engaged I am with in a 1/4 inch from truck only measurements. Which is 75%. The manual says at least half way back to front wheel well height. So I am good but going to try and get a little better with one more washer.
Fender measurement:
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37 1/2 front
39 1/4 rear

With out wdh.
38 1/2 front
36 1/2 rear

With wdh
37 3/4
37 1/4
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:35 PM   #12
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I wonder what the difference is between a 3/4 ton gasser and a 1/2 ton un loaded vehicle weight... And
As a rough comparison, our '13 2500HD CCSB 6.0 4x4 has an "off the assembly line" weight of about 6750lbs, (9500lb gvwr - 275Xlb payload per yellow sticker). The last time I weighed the truck it weighed in at 7800lbs. That was with at least 1/2 a tank, my wife and I, a cooler, I think about 300lbs of firewood, 40 or 50lb tool box, and maybe a few minor things. We do have a cab high topper as well.

What is your trucks receiver hitch rated for? That is one thing I would keep a close eye on with your 1200lb+ tw.
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:46 PM   #13
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I wonder what the difference is between a 3/4 ton gasser and a 1/2 ton un loaded vehicle weight... And
I have a well equipped 2015 F250 6.2 XLT 4WD with the 6-3/4' bed. With gas and driver the truck weighs in at 7200lb. You might want to try moving the hitch head up a hole to raise the front of the trailer. Adding another washer may get you over corrected on the front axle.
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I have a well equipped 2015 F250 6.2 XLT 4WD with the 6-3/4' bed. With gas and driver the truck weighs in at 7200lb. You might want to try moving the hitch head up a hole to raise the front of the trailer. Adding another washer may get you over corrected on the front axle.
Good point and I agree. I will be checking my front axle weight for sure after. I do not want to be over for sure on the front. Just seeing if I can get my rear axle weight 90lbs under closer to the limit ...which in the grand scheme is nothing but would like to be under specs. If I am over on fawr I will remove. That is not a good scenario being over on front gawr..

I do not not want to go over fawr for sure and will make the adjustments if necessary.
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Eco,

Are you able to move your trailer brackets up a hole? That may be easier to do just to see what the results are with more bar tension. Just wait until you are at the scale to move them up. In speaking with Equal-I-Zer when trying to help someone adjust their 4 way system I was told that changing a washer is about equal to moving the brackets a hole in the correct direction. Add a washer or move bracket up, remove a wash or move bracket down.

May save taking the hitch head apart if the results are not what you are looking for.
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To the OP - is your hitch rated at 1150lbs like mine is?
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Are you able to move your trailer brackets up a hole? That may be easier to do just to see what the results are with more bar tension. Just wait until you are at the scale to move them up. In speaking with Equal-I-Zer when trying to help someone adjust their 4 way system I was told that changing a washer is about equal to moving the brackets a hole in the correct direction. Add a washer or move bracket up, remove a wash or move bracket down.

May save taking the hitch head apart if the results are not what you are looking for.
I believe adding and removing washers is more of a suttle change or "fine tuning" the manual says to start with washers minimum 4 maximum 8 than move L brackets.
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To the OP - is your hitch rated at 1150lbs like mine is?
Yes.
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Just a CAT scale follow-up...........,

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My '02' 2500HD scaled in just under 6,200lbs (full fuel with myself and no cargo)...., with passenger & cargo 6,600lbs. I haven't weighed my new '16' 2500HD TV yet.

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Interesting...200lbs under my 1/2 ton.

When we talk about the "tail wagging the dog" the 3/4
Ton vs 1/2 ton should not be a deciding factor.
Gvwr of the vehicles is the main factor.
I weighed my new '16' 2500HD today and it scaled at 7,050lbs (full fuel with myself and no cargo)....., 850lbs heavier then my '02' 2500HD under the same conditions.

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Just a CAT scale follow-up...........,





I weighed my new '16' 2500HD today and it scaled at 7,050lbs (full fuel with myself and no cargo)....., 850lbs heavier then my '02' 2500HD under the same conditions.

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Are both your old truck and new truck the same wheelbase, same cab config, 4X4, gasoline, trim level, etc?
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