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Old 04-08-2014, 08:50 AM   #21
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Then please be careful about advising people to get deeper into dept every 2 years just to keep up with the upgrade cycle that everyone seems to go through.
Sorry pops. We are all grown ups here, and capable of making our own decisions. If you were to read a little closer, you will see that nowhere did I advise anyone to go deeper into debt every two years. What I did say is that the average RV'er will upgrade on an average of every 5 years. I guess your "every 2 years" is just for drama and effect. Being new to the rv lifestyle, and looking to purchase their first trailer, there is a better than average chance that they don't, and/or won't know exactly what they want/need in an rv, until they have spent some time in one. This in itself leads to first time buyers looking to upgrade from their first unit. Hence the advice I gave, and you tried to twist, to don't go overboard on your first rv purchase.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:22 AM   #22
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pssh, i only waited 6 months to upgrade mine
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:29 AM   #23
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Alright guys, no need to get into a flame war. I appreciate everyone's advice, and after looking around, I'm leaning towards the Jayco 12BS PUP. I think something like this would suit our needs and it's a lot lighter than the hybrid we were looking at. Not sure when we'll have time to go check one out though. I know this is a Jayco forum, but what are some other good brands should we check out? A dealer close to us has a few Rockwoods, but I've never heard of them before.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:35 AM   #24
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Rockwoods are really nice. I know people who have owned them. I think they are pretty much equal to Jayco. Don't know what kind of warranty they have though. I think the Jayco PUPs are 2 years, same as their travel trailers.
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Sorry pops.
Awesome! I resemble that remark!

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I tow a Jayco 1206 PUP with a 2005 Trailblazer which is similar to your Explorer. The truck pulls the trailer great and I get about 15mpg towing. I have twin 3-year-old boys so the space is tight. We bought a pup first because we can store it in the garage of our townhome and cannot store a TT on site.

I think the 16XRB would be doable with my truck but I would not have anywhere to store it. My milage would also be worse but that is not too important to me. However it would be a lot easier to set up and more comfortable as I don't have a toilet. If I had to do it over again I would have gone with a TT over a PUP.
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I tow a Jayco 1206 PUP with a 2005 Trailblazer which is similar to your Explorer. The truck pulls the trailer great and I get about 15mpg towing. I have twin 3-year-old boys so the space is tight. We bought a pup first because we can store it in the garage of our townhome and cannot store a TT on site.

I think the 16XRB would be doable with my truck but I would not have anywhere to store it. My milage would also be worse but that is not too important to me. However it would be a lot easier to set up and more comfortable as I don't have a toilet. If I had to do it over again I would have gone with a TT over a PUP.
Just curious but do you travel primarily flat roads or up mountains? My problem with the 16xrb is that I know if there's room there's a tendency to fill it. Especially with my daughter getting older, we'll need to load bicycles and other equipment. I'm just not sure which way to go lol.
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Awesome! I resemble that remark!

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Just curious but do you travel primarily flat roads or up mountains? My problem with the 16xrb is that I know if there's room there's a tendency to fill it. Especially with my daughter getting older, we'll need to load bicycles and other equipment. I'm just not sure which way to go lol.
I live in the Midwest so no major hills so far but we are planning a trip to Chattanooga, Tennessee this summer. That will be the first mountains with this combo but I have towed cargo trailers with a suburban on the Penna. Turnpike before.

I started a thread in the popup section about DIY bike racks for a popup.
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My first PUP was a family hand me down. A 1969 Apache that my dad had purchased new. When I bought my new PUP in 2000 I believe it was, a Scamper, by Thor, I was a family of 7 and pulled it with a Suburban. You would be amazed how much you can pack into a folding trailer. Odd thing is, as the kids grew up and moved out, the size of our campers got larger, not smaller.
Whatever you end up with, you will have a great time and build incredible memories in it.
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