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Old 04-27-2016, 09:21 PM   #1
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The Numbers Part II -- Whitehawk 27 DSRL

I had posted in a previous thread that we are looking to upgrade from our Jayflight 24FBS to a larger unit. But because we have an older F150, we need to keep the weight and hitch weight under control!

Our latest consideration is a 2016 Whitehawk DSRL.

So here are the numbers:

Truck:
2010 Ford F150 SuperCrew Lariat, with 5.4 L V8 and 3:73 rear axle and Tow Max package
Payload is 1465
Towing capacity is 11,300 lbs
GVWR 7700lbs
Front and Rear GAWR are both 4050 lbs
Gross Combined Weight is 17,100 lbs (truck and anything we're pulling)

2016 Whitehawk DSRL:
GVW -- 7500 lbs
Unloaded Vehicle Weight is 5980
Dry Hitch is 620, but at 7500 lbs it would be more like 750 to 800lbs, depending on what we pack. The trailer would never be at GVW as we do not dry camp. We never travel with the water tank full, if it has anything at all.

Thoughts folks? I know alot of people tow this trailer with a F-150, but they are often the newer version with a bit more payload.....

Thanks in advance for your input.
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:43 PM   #2
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I had posted in a previous thread that we are looking to upgrade from our Jayflight 24FBS to a larger unit. But because we have an older F150, we need to keep the weight and hitch weight under control!

Our latest consideration is a 2016 Whitehawk DSRL.

So here are the numbers:

Truck:
2010 Ford F150 SuperCrew Lariat, with 5.4 L V8 and 3:73 rear axle and Tow Max package
Payload is 1465
Towing capacity is 11,300 lbs
GVWR 7700lbs
Front and Rear GAWR are both 4050 lbs
Gross Combined Weight is 17,100 lbs (truck and anything we're pulling)

2016 Whitehawk DSRL:
GVW -- 7500 lbs
Unloaded Vehicle Weight is 5980
Dry Hitch is 620, but at 7500 lbs it would be more like 750 to 800lbs, depending on what we pack. The trailer would never be at GVW as we do not dry camp. We never travel with the water tank full, if it has anything at all.

Thoughts folks? I know alot of people tow this trailer with a F-150, but they are often the newer version with a bit more payload.....

Thanks in advance for your input.
It looks to me like you would be OK. You will need a weight distribution hitch if you don't have one already.
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:58 PM   #3
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Is that payload as per scales or the door?
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Is that payload as per scales or the door?
The door.
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If you have access to a scale I would load your truck the way you camp, family, dog, full tank of gas and whatever you put in the box and go weight it. I was very surprised!
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It does look like you'll have room but that's the number I'd think would be close.
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Old 04-27-2016, 11:16 PM   #7
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I sent you a PM as we have the same truck (mine is an XLT vs your Lariat) but same engine and same gear ratio. My payload however based on the door sticker is 1649 so I have a little more cargo capacity. The truck does struggle towing up grades and I have to mash the pedal down to keep it above 50 mph. I also averaged about 9 mpg on the last trip.
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My TV is a '91 Bronco (shorter WB F150) towing a '15 Whitehawk 27DSRL. The best improvement to my TV was changing the 3.55:1 gears to 4.56:1. And because of the short wheel base I use the Pro Pride hitch which I swear by. We towed 4K miles last summer with no trailer sway and went through the Eisenhower Tunnel (11,300 ft) without a problem.
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Ykca,

It looks like you are figuring your loaded tw a little low. On average, most trailers need 12-15% tw for a safe stable tow. This is as measured with a scale under the coupler, not what the "net" tw is once hooked up with the wd bars latched up. So a 7000lb tt could have a 840lb-1050lb tw.

As mentioned, load the truck up like you would for a trip, and with all the family, go weigh the truck. That will give a more accurate weight to see if the estimated tw of the WH will still keep you under the gvwr of the 150.

I believe there is a link to a CAT Scale locator in my how to use a CAT Scale signature link.

Good luck!
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I also think you will be close on the weights. I would expect a TW around 1000# when loaded. Your payload of 1400# is for both axles and does not include you, a passenger or three, fuel or gear in the bed.
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