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Old 10-02-2014, 08:03 PM   #41
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Best of both worlds. New ford explorer sport...same ford Ecco v6 with around 375 HP. Tow like a pickup with SUV features.
the tow ratings on the explorer are only 5000. not very good..ton less than GC

I think we can conclude the OP is buying either a GC or touareg
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Old 10-02-2014, 08:56 PM   #42
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We have a 26BHS that I pull with a 2011 Durango. Our actual weights are similar to what's being thrown around here, and I have to say it's a great setup. Close to the margins, but I use a pro-pride hitch and that makes all the difference in the world. Wouldn't be comfortable as close to the limits as I am otherwise, but it really is a great towing experience. I actually arrange cargo to get my tongue weight closer to 10% rather than 13-15%, but with the hitch there is no sway so it's not a problem. Once you get the weight distribution dialed in everything rides great.

We have the 5.7 Hemi which has plenty of power although the transmission hunts a bit more than id like on steep climbs. The newer ones have an 8 speed I think, which handles a lot better.

If you are set on the mid-sized SUV (we were) the Durango is something you really ought to take a look at. In many ways it's nothing but a GC with a big butt; same drivetrains, same interior, etc.
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Old 10-03-2014, 07:49 AM   #43
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I think we can conclude the OP is buying either a GC or touareg
Yes, but at least willing to go down in size and stay within ratings. Nothing wrong with that.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:28 AM   #44
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I will take a truck any day. I just took two young boys with me. plus the dog in the back seat. Lots of room, took three bikes . One on the trailer, two in the back of the truck.
would not fit bike rack. Two weeks of supplies.
Try getting that in a SUV
If you have a boat where do you put it?
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:34 AM   #45
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Yes, but at least willing to go down in size and stay within ratings. Nothing wrong with that.
nope...they are thinking the right way.
the purpose of my post was to say they are not interested in optional TV choices. They are buying a diesel SUV.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:56 AM   #46
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Crew cab trucks with a cap provides lots of room and lots of storage space in the back. You want at least a 25 % reserve tow capacity in your tow vehicle. Being right at or near your towing limit will put considerable strain on the tow vehicle power train.
Don't let the vehicle sales person sell tell you "it tow that TT with no problem". Do the math, 25% reserve tow capacity is the number.
Also consider that almost all first time buyers of RV's (TT, 5th wheels, motor homes ) usually move up to a larger size RV within 1 to 2 years. Consider getting the tow vehicle of a larger size will allow you to move up in RV size without changing tow vehicles.
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:13 AM   #47
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I don't think anyone needs a reserve capacity at all. manufacturers spec vehicles and post their ratings and going to 100 percent of that is fine.I don't believe there will be any extra strain whatsoever. There has never been documentation showing different.

My reasoning in my very first point was that they do not have either the TV yet nor the trailer. That is the only reason I picked neither. There are so many options in trailers and TV that purchasing a combination that is at max capacity wouldn't be my choice although there is nothing wrong with it.

Since it is evident by your posts that you are buying either the Grand Cherokee or the Touareg diesel ,they will tow that trailer if that is what you are looking for.
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:36 AM   #48
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Another note about "reserve towing capacity": "Towing capacity" is not the primary concern when talking about towing travel trailers. The primary concern is payload capacity (at least in smaller vehicles, 3/4 tons and up are a bit different as their payload capacity is typically enough to handle their towing capacity).

Example: My published "towing capacity" is 9600 lbs. My trailer scaled at about 7600 lbs loaded for a trip. That would technically be a 21% "reserve towing capacity", but I'm at my max on payload because the truck still has to carry the tongue of the trailer (along with me and my family and my dog and my gear... you see where I'm going) and that weight goes directly against payload. So there's no way my truck could tow a 9600 lb travel trailer safely; I would be significantly over on payload. There are also aerodynamics to consider; as has been mentioned plenty of times on here before, there is a significant difference between towing a 7600 lb flat bed trailer with load of bricks, and a 7600 lb travel trailer. Many vehicles have limitations on "frontal area" that technically put trailers that are within weight specs out of the running.

Depending on the payload capacity of the TV, and what you plan to haul inside it, even a 25% "reserve towing capacity" could put you over on payload.

I also agree with nbhybrid that towing at your limits is not the end of the world. Is it preferable? As I have experienced it, I would say no. It can be done safely, it's just more difficult to do. And after all, we're out to have fun, not constantly worry about weight...
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I think your last comments concur with my statements!
"I also agree with nbhybrid that towing at your limits is not the end of the world. Is it preferable? As I have experienced it, I would say no. It can be done safely, it's just more difficult to do. And after all, we're out to have fun, not constantly worry about weight..."
Also 25% reserve capacity is determined after you determine what loads you are going to tow.
Then there is the future possibility of a larger trailer. Then what will they need a larger tow vehicle?
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Old 10-03-2014, 10:23 AM   #50
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Then there is the future possibility of a larger trailer. Then what will they need a larger tow vehicle?

This isn't the case for all people. My spacious X17A will likely do us out.
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