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Old 09-20-2015, 09:26 PM   #1
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Currently towing my "new" 2013 JayFlight 22FB with my 2001 Chev. Half ton. 4.8l v8 and 3.42 axle. Have 130k on truck.
Planning a three month, 4000+ mile Winter journey through the south. Thinking I ought find a good used, lower mile truck before the trip begins in December.
Or, at least know what I ought to be looking for if the old Chevy gets sick on the upcoming trip.
Believe a diesel might be more than needed on a cost/function basis. Trailer is about 5k lbs loaded. Perhaps a 3/4 ton is not necessary either.
Thoughts on reliable used half ton pickups, engines, axle ratios, etc that I should consider?
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How beat is your 2001? Does it pull the trailer without complaint?

Consider the cost of a newe truck vs. doing the transmission on you current ride.

My '03 F-350 has 135,000 miles on it and I wouldn't hesitate going cross country with it.
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Old 09-20-2015, 09:39 PM   #3
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How beat is your 2001? Does it pull the trailer without complaint?

Consider the cost of a newe truck vs. doing the transmission on you current ride.

My '03 F-350 has 135,000 miles on it and I wouldn't hesitate going cross country with it.
My 01 spent its first ten years in central TX, so has no rust. Body has a few dings. Seems to pull my TT with no complaints. Downshifts if on a steep or long grade and mpg takes a hit, but I have not noticed any other complaints from her. Has new brakes, shocks, tires and tune up within last month.
What are you meaning re. "Doing the transmission."?
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Mike meant having the trans rebuilt due to the mileage. Some of this model trans have been known to need rebuilding anywhere from 100k+ miles.

On steep or long grades, can you still maintain speed after the trans downshifts? Or does the truck struggle and gradually lose speed? Just how steep if a grade? If so, and you decide to keep it, maybe regear the truck also (.373 or 4.10's).

If you decide to get a newer truck, if funds allow go for a newer ('09 it started I think) 6spd trans/ 3.42 GM Twin, if you stay with GM. Or any of the newer trucks with a 6spd trans. Suggest depending on brand at least a 3.42/3.55 set of gears.

For your big trip, just how much will you have loaded in the bed of the truck, and how much do all the passengers weigh? Most 1500/150's have about 1500lbs of payload (some Dodge's being on the very low end) per the yellow sticker in the drivers door. Will state "Passengers and cargo not to exceed XXXXlbs". When shopping look for this sticker. If loading up heavy, that is the only reason I could see a need for a 2500, if you take the kitchen sink too! Lol But with maybe 750lbs tw (15% of your estimated 5k lb loaded ft) and 100lbs wdh, you still have an estimated 650lbs for passengers and cargo with 1500 truck that has ~1500lbs payload.

Also verify the truck has the factory installed tow package for the extra cooling (trans/motor) that is included with the package.

If you keep your truck or get a newer GM (-'13 had a round tube), keep an eye on the hitch. Some of those factory round tube hitches have failed. The round tube hitches can "wind up/twist" when the wd bars are latched up also.

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Old 09-21-2015, 06:17 AM   #5
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The steepest grade I have towed this TT was between Traverse City MI and Kalkaska MI. In that 21 miles the elevation change is 492 feet. Some relatively long steep grades.

On that route, the truck would down shift and I increased RPM. Could hold close to beginning speed, but it would often lose speed (say, from 55 down to 45 at top of hill). If I had reved her more, could have likely maintained the 55 or so speed.
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Gas engines need to rev (and they are built to do so) on steeper grades while towing heavy. Even my Ford V10 downshifts into 2nd (on a 4-speed trans) on some steeper grades to maintain 60 or so.
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Agreed, Gas engines need the higher RPM's when loaded, if you look at the torque / horsepower curves, the is where they shine. Mileage suffers, but you will be ok. I've seen many trucks older than yours, presumably with more miles, on the road pulling TT's at highway speeds too. If you feel comfortable and know the maintenance history of the truck, I'd pull with it.
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Old 09-21-2015, 06:53 AM   #8
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Lots of good help here my friends. Perhaps I am OK to go with her as is. Was hoping to hold off on a newer tug for a year or so.
Have noted nothing which would indicate trans problems (jerky, slipping, stuck or popping out of gear).
Maybe a good check up, trans flush and new fluid would be in order.

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The gas engines love to rev but with the 22FB 4100 lbs (dry) it might be a bit too much for the 4.8 especially with the 3.42 gear. As need-a-vacation mentioned, I think that a '09 or newer 5.3 Silverado/Sierra with the 6 speed transmission would be good match for that weight.
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Although I love my diesel you should remember that the interest payments on a new/newer vehicle will be more than the gas savings.. So if the vehicle is still reliable why change?
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