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Old 04-07-2015, 01:33 PM   #11
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For grins, look at the weight sticker in your driver's door. It should have the payload listed as determined at the factory. 1500# seems high for an SUV.
Yep, seems high to me too. I have a 2013 Ford Expedition EL and it's payload capacity is 1,276 pounds.
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Old 04-07-2015, 01:43 PM   #12
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I have a 2004 Expedition and sticker says 1555#.
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Old 04-07-2015, 01:59 PM   #13
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Sorry my mistake. It says 1120
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Old 04-07-2015, 02:07 PM   #14
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Sorry my mistake. It says 1120
Ah! Excellent. This makes much more sense and puts things into perspective. Payload is where most SUVs fall short for trailers at this size.

So let's assume for a moment that you load your trailer up to it's full GVWR, which you most likely will not, but it's a good planning exercise. Also for planning figure 13% for tongue weight. 13% of 4950# is 643#. Subtract that from 1120 and you are left with 477#. That's 477# for your passengers, dog, and any stuff you might decide to carry in the SUV. You also have to subtract the weight of the WD hitch, maybe 100# at a guess?

So can you keep the weight of everything in your SUV under 377#?
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Ah! Excellent. This makes much more sense and puts things into perspective. Payload is where most SUVs fall short for trailers at this size.

So let's assume for a moment that you load your trailer up to it's full GVWR, which you most likely will not, but it's a good planning exercise. Also for planning figure 13% for tongue weight. 13% of 4950# is 643#. Subtract that from 1120 and you are left with 477#. That's 477# for your passengers, dog, and any stuff you might decide to carry in the SUV. You also have to subtract the weight of the WD hitch, maybe 100# at a guess?

So can you keep the weight of everything in your SUV under 377#?
That's a good exercise to go by for sure. Our camping trips are only weekends (Friday-Sunday) 95% of the time, the occasional long weekend sprinkled in. I dont see us ever getting the trailer to it's max weight, my wife is a frugal when it comes time to determine what goes and stays. As long as I have a few pairs of shorts and beer I'm good. I'd say with the items we bring is close to the 500lb mark and that may be pushing it.

We towed a 900lb 92' Skamper popup with a 2011 Rav4 4cyl (1500lb Tow cap) for years, and even with that I dont think we ever over packed because that little Rav4 towed that thing with ease.
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I think you're going to be fine. As I said before, you might be wanting a bigger tow vehicle at some point, but for now, just go have fun.
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I took the RV out for a spin this weekend to get a feel of it before we start camping season. The Pathfinder towed it very well, up and down hills. I could definitely tell it was there behind me but it pulled a lot better than I expected. It was currently hooked up with no weight distribution hitch since it was only a trip thru some towns, narrow hilly back roads and a few highway cruises.

I expected more a dip on the rear with the trailer hooked up but it only came down about a 1.50", but this was a dry run with no extra cargo.

Overall it was a good experience and makes me feel a lot better about my purchase.

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Thanks for reporting back! You will want the WD hitch, even for short trips. I can see that your front end is high. That's the part to worry about.
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Thanks for reporting back! You will want the WD hitch, even for short trips. I can see that your front end is high. That's the part to worry about.
I noticed that too from the picture.
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snip......Overall it was a good experience and makes me feel a lot better about my purchase........snip
Now that you have the new HTT, take your TV/HTT combination under "loaded" conditions to your local CAT scale, thus confirming your weights and proper WDH adjustment.

The CAT scale is the only way to optimize your TV's towing characteristics under your personal loading habits.

CAT scale how-to: https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f3...v-tt-3871.html

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