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Old 02-18-2013, 04:59 PM   #1
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Spare Tire Rack under the tongue X23b

Just returned from a long weekend and at some point on return trip the two clips that hold the rack to the trailer frame came loose and the rack was dragging on the road.
If I hadn't gotten out to take off the sway bar I would have backed up with that dragging. A d it would not have been a pretty sight.
Has anyone else had this happen? I've never touched the rack since purchased the trailer last year, just wondering if there is a better safer alternative for carrying a spare on the X23b?
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:39 PM   #2
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I have a 23j with the same set up. I am not sure what even holds the rack on the frame, I am interested in figuring this out.....
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:43 PM   #3
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I had the 2011 X23J and the tire was mounted to the bumper. I wonder why they changed this. The tongue was already heavy on this unit, why add more weight.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:23 PM   #4
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Question 1; did you at some point drive in a location where you may have twisted the trailer frame, aka jump a curb or something similar?

Question 2; you stated you had never removed the spare tire before. Had you ever checked it to make sure it was properly mounted?

Question 3; Assumption you have a WDH, could the installer have dropped the tire to install the WDH components and not properly reinstall tire bracket?

I have not had this issue. I have been concerned that the clevis pin securing the nose bracket I would come loose. I had to drop the spare tire to tighten the WDH components and found the pin installed upside down (my opinion) so it could “fallout” if something would accidently snag it.

I would call Jayco and tell them, just in case this is a design issue.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:30 AM   #5
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slabat, just behind the crank there is a long metal arm that come up high with a large pin. The going back towards the trailer frame the "carrier" forms a Y and then at each end it bends up and turns into an "s shape" that either clips under into two slots in the frame or hooks over those two slots. That is what I could not figure out and the reason the rack and tire rode to the garage in the back of the truck.
Jdorant, my guess bumper is either too light to carry or interferes with the rear bed when it drops.
Jgiven, no curb jumping however did get fuel on the way home. Nothing too tight that I noticed.
I am FAR from a mechanical mind, I could have looked at it without a clue if it was proper. I have thought on occasion it was awfully low hanging.
No, no WDH. Was told by dealer I didn't need it?
I will give Jayco a call
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:19 AM   #6
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My carrier was pushed rearward when I bought my previously enjoyed '06 23B, most likely by rubbing on the pavement when leaving a gas station or the like. I had to remove it in order to straighten all the bent portions. If I remember correctly the rack has to make a wide vertical swing in order to properly engage the back straps in the tongue frame. My guess is that it wasn't in the right spot to begin with and it bounced out and onto the pavement.
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My guess is that it wasn't in the right spot to begin with and it bounced out and onto the pavement.
mcfarmall's guess is mine as well. No WDH would add to that guess.

I have the 17Z (smaller than yours) and I took my spare and that carrier off yesterday. I did it to reduce hitch weight, not because of any problems. I took out the 5 zip screws that secure it to the frame. My first thought was to rotate it upward and take it out of those clips, but I would have to remove the propane tank rack. With nothing bent or broken it's not coming out of there.
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I had the 2011 X23J and the tire was mounted to the bumper. I wonder why they changed this. The tongue was already heavy on this unit, why add more weight.
... couldn't agree any more.
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slabat,..... No, no WDH. Was told by dealer I didn't need it...
The dealer told you do not need a WDH! I would run as fast as I can from that dealer! The only way I would not have a WDH on an X23B would be if I had a ¾ ton or better truck. My Dakota (w/ tow package) is 2 years newer and I need a WDH. I have towed my old car on borrowed car trailers without a WDH. It works but I can really tell the difference between the trailers.
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The dealer told you do not need a WDH!.... snip
Interesting and valid point.

Depending on the loaded tongue weight, the lack of a WDH may contribute to lower ground clearance at the spare tire...., and possibly create unwanted TV suspension movement as well.

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