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Old 11-18-2014, 05:28 PM   #21
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I used to park my trailer in some fairly deep gravel. 4-lo made backing the trailer in a breeze.
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Old 11-18-2014, 05:54 PM   #22
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Thanks everyone for your comments and opinions, they helped me sort through all I was thinking about.

After reading everyone's thoughts, I realized I should have looked at what my DW put on our walls at home. We have two stencils she put up.

The first reads:

"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." St. Augustine.

The second reads:
"Two roads diverged in the wood and I took the one less traveled by and that has made all the difference." Robert Frost

Realizing we like to take the road less traveled (and the note about the driving on the beach hit home = tried it in Honda Van, almost got stuck), a 4wd is our best option. We could also do some off roading our west (saw some folks doing that in AZ back in 2007) which a 4wd would be a must.
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Old 11-18-2014, 06:05 PM   #23
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Of course the other aspect to this is ..

"Those without 4 wheel drive will get stuck when those with it will not. Those with 4 wheel drive will get stuck so far in that no one can get them out"

Then you start down the rabbit hole of winches, pull-pal, hi-lift jacks, snatch straps and shackles. Been there a few times myself, alone, and needed all to get home. It was a glorious adventure, but not with trailer in tow.
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Old 11-18-2014, 06:13 PM   #24
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One poster said to get what meets your needs. Sounds like that is what you did. I have had a 2wd dually and 2wd SRW. For our needs and where we go, it is perfect.
Never have been anywhere but once that I could have used a 4wd and I was able to avoid getting stuck with better judgement.

I don't see how anyone could wear out 3 HD trucks in a lifetime so I'm content to wear out my 06 SRW 2wd. Just turned 95K.
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:56 PM   #25
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Of course the other aspect to this is ..

"Those without 4 wheel drive will get stuck when those with it will not. Those with 4 wheel drive will get stuck so far in that no one can get them out"

Then you start down the rabbit hole of winches, pull-pal, hi-lift jacks, snatch straps and shackles. Been there a few times myself, alone, and needed all to get home. It was a glorious adventure, but not with trailer in tow.

+1, big time. Never got a 2wd truck stuck as bad as I got a 4x4 stuck! 1988 Suburban, sunk in the East Texas mud up to the rocker panels, that thing was a *****, when it got stuck, it really meant it! LOVED that truck though!
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:47 PM   #26
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As far as driving on the beach or sand goes, it doesn't matter if you have 4WD. You will get stuck if the sand is too deep (> a few inches). I found this out several times. My truck does NOT drive in the sand. It shakes and shutters and the sand gets thrown around. I don't think it matters what brand or size truck, it's a tire thing I believe.
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As far as driving on the beach or sand goes, it doesn't matter if you have 4WD. You will get stuck if the sand is too deep (> a few inches). I found this out several times. My truck does NOT drive in the sand. It shakes and shutters and the sand gets thrown around. I don't think it matters what brand or size truck, it's a tire thing I believe.
Yep dune buggies are 2wd. To drive on the beach you need big tires, not tall but big fat wide tires. It's a PSI thing.

The problem with 2wd pickups it they don't weight much over the driven wheels. Weight and tire surface area = traction.
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As far as driving on the beach or sand goes, it doesn't matter if you have 4WD. You will get stuck if the sand is too deep (> a few inches). I found this out several times. My truck does NOT drive in the sand. It shakes and shutters and the sand gets thrown around. I don't think it matters what brand or size truck, it's a tire thing I believe.
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Yep dune buggies are 2wd. To drive on the beach you need big tires, not tall but big fat wide tires. It's a PSI thing.

The problem with 2wd pickups it they don't weight much over the driven wheels. Weight and tire surface area = traction.
I'll buy the pickup-weight-in-the-back thing when driving on sand, but I'm not buying the 4wd gets stuck just as easy in sand. Can you get a 4wd truck stuck? You bet! See my post above (I ONLY get 4x4s stuck, never been stuck in a 2wd, but that's because 4wd gives me a false confidence).

DW's X-Terra is 4WD and it drives through the softest sand on the beach like a CHAMP while everything else is getting stuck or spinning tires...
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This thread started out good but is certainly 'straying' lately.

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I'll buy the pickup-weight-in-the-back thing when driving on sand, but I'm not buying the 4wd gets stuck just as easy in sand. Can you get a 4wd truck stuck? You bet! See my post above (I ONLY get 4x4s stuck, never been stuck in a 2wd, but that's because 4wd gives me a false confidence).

DW's X-Terra is 4WD and it drives through the softest sand on the beach like a CHAMP while everything else is getting stuck or spinning tires...
I have a 4WD F350 and the only two times it's been stuck are... Once in a deep sand campsite, and once in a sand pit motocross area that I inadvertantly found while trying to turn around in a 2 track. I also have electronic locking differential. Doesn't matter how many wheel drive you have, certain tires are made for sand. Stock tires are not. Come visit Silver Lake sand dunes in MI and see how many people are in stock 1 tons driving around the sand. You won't find any.

You don't have to believe me but I'm just throwing it out there as caution. It takes snow like a champ though.
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