Abnormal tire wear on one tire

rkymntsno · 03-10-2021, 12:27 PM

Tires on our 355mbqs have gone about 12,000 miles. The passenger rear tire has a wear pattern on the inside tread row. Dropped off 5'er for some more warranty work as we just got back from Biloxi, 1200 mile round trip. Service rep said Jayco won't warranty tires. Says there's nothing to adjust since it's only one tire wearing bad. Is this true? I'm just supposed to accept that and have to buy one new tire?

Jagiven · 03-10-2021, 12:42 PM

Hard to say! Do you have a picture of the tire wear? Different wear patterns indicate different root issues.

Bend spindle, typically will only affect that tire. Axle miss alignment commonly affects both tires on that axle. Over or under tire pressure can cause excessive inside or outside tread wear pattern. Suspension issues can cause hopping. Out of round tire can cause major issues.

My favorite, as it is my issue. Is due to backing into my driveway. Our city oils and pea gravels our street every few years. I tend to always back in the same way. This causes a lot of tire scrubbing, one tire is worse, due to the crown of the road. I now rotate my tires annually and re balance them. Since doing this I ha not had any noticeable un even wear issues.

Key is to determine the type of tire wear, than review what causes that type of wear.

craigav · 03-10-2021, 12:50 PM

In line and in addition with what Jagiven stated, usually one axle stays on track while the other axle scoots (skids) while in a turn. If you are making more right hand turns for example you will likely see the passenger rear tire top leaning inward putting more wear on the inside tread. You can see this if you can find a large parking lot and turn right and stop while in the turn and check, I bet you will see the inside of the rear tires leaning much more than the front tires, often they leave a black mark especially on concrete. When pulling straight, you should check that no tires are leaning, as already mentioned a bent spindle could also cause an issue. If it is bent enough, you will (may) see the rear tire leaning more outward than the front trailer tire when going straight. Pictures would help for sure if you can take a few, I would grab a picture of both rear tires or better yet all of the tires. ~CA

rkymntsno · 03-10-2021, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagiven

Hard to say! Do you have a picture of the tire wear? Different wear patterns indicate different root issues.

Bend spindle, typically will only affect that tire. Axle miss alignment commonly affects both tires on that axle. Over or under tire pressure can cause excessive inside or outside tread wear pattern. Suspension issues can cause hopping. Out of round tire can cause major issues.

My favorite, as it is my issue. Is due to backing into my driveway. Our city oils and pea gravels our street every few years. I tend to always back in the same way. This causes a lot of tire scrubbing, one tire is worse, due to the crown of the road. I now rotate my tires annually and re balance them. Since doing this I ha not had any noticeable un even wear issues.

Key is to determine the type of tire wear, than review what causes that type of wear.

OMG! You're gonna make me post another photo on this forum???? I forget how to do it each time! Ok, try this......

PaulB12 · 03-10-2021, 03:56 PM

Nobody mentioned bearings.
PaulB12

TxLoser · 03-10-2021, 04:35 PM

I had the same on my Eagle FW. It showed up around 6K miles and was more pronounced. It was a bent axle. A new axle was sent as a warranty item from manufacturer. I had to pay install however.

There was nothing visually perceptible. Dealer sent all the measurements in and it was just very slightly off.

Jeffur · 03-10-2021, 04:47 PM

Excellent response

Jeffur · 03-10-2021, 04:48 PM

Also - what is the weight over each tire? You can get this weighed

Jagiven · 03-10-2021, 05:07 PM

Per the attached chart, it is indicating over loading the tire as the issue.

https://www.therangerstation.com/Mag...ire_wear.shtml

Have you measured the tread thickness on the other side? You can use a penny for this test.

Have you taken your rig across a CAT scale by chance? I believe 2 measurements are needed on a 5ver. TV by itself and with the 5ver. Others can clarify if I am wrong.

What is the tire rating? Might be close to over loading.

How level is your 5ver? If you are nose low or high, one set of tires can have more or less load than the other. It also affects how the tires scrub as you go around a corner.

I would verify the springs are in the same perch location all the way around.

Lots to look at and think about.

rkymntsno · 03-10-2021, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TxLoser

I had the same on my Eagle FW. It showed up around 6K miles and was more pronounced. It was a bent axle. A new axle was sent as a warranty item from manufacturer. I had to pay install however.

There was nothing visually perceptible. Dealer sent all the measurements in and it was just very slightly off.

Was it only one tire out of four that was wearing? Or was it both on the same axle?

rkymntsno · 03-10-2021, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagiven

Per the attached chart, it is indicating over loading the tire as the issue.

https://www.therangerstation.com/Mag...ire_wear.shtml

Have you measured the tread thickness on the other side? You can use a penny for this test.

Have you taken your rig across a CAT scale by chance? I believe 2 measurements are needed on a 5ver. TV by itself and with the 5ver. Others can clarify if I am wrong.

What is the tire rating? Might be close to over loading.

How level is your 5ver? If you are nose low or high, one set of tires can have more or less load than the other. It also affects how the tires scrub as you go around a corner.

I would verify the springs are in the same perch location all the way around.

Lots to look at and think about.

Nice chart. But I don't see how it can be from overloading. Yes I've weighed the 5'er and it's GVWR is 14,900 and it was at 13,500. We don't load much into it on trips. We travel with all tanks empty. They're Goodyear Endurance tires, very good tires. All four tires look fine, even, and look like they're tracking fine. I've contacted Jayco this afternoon even and we'll see what they have to say. We're not nose high hitched up. Pretty level.

TxLoser · 03-10-2021, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rkymntsno

Was it only one tire out of four that was wearing? Or was it both on the same axle?

One of four.

GHen · 03-11-2021, 12:48 AM

My daughters trailer wore inside rear tires. I put a straight piece a wood across the tires at axel height and it was obvious the rear axel was bent. Took it to the dealer, same assessment. Warranty covered replacing the Dexter 5200# axels but not the tires.
Dealer thought it was from tight turns, normally from backing up too sharp. It’s just normal low quality parts. I have heard an alignment shop or frame shop can bend it back, good enough until you bend it again.

rkymntsno · 03-11-2021, 08:09 AM

Ok, thanks for the responses. I don't like what I'm hearing but oh well, lol.

burdpete · 03-14-2021, 02:56 PM

You can get your axles aligned at a shop that specializes in trailers. I had mine done and it corrected the problem

Shokyle1 · 03-14-2021, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulB12

Nobody mentioned bearings.
PaulB12

I had one tire out of the four wearing on one edge. I found the bearings loose on it.

USNMA1 · 03-17-2021, 01:07 PM

I posted not too long ago, on same issue with photos, it turned out to be a bad axle and needed replaced, I only had 4500 miles on a new 2020 North Point 383FKWS . Up hill battle, I had to go directly through Dexter, Jayco wouldn’t cover it. After the battle Dexter covered the axle, Jayco covered a partial amount of tire, but I had to pay for labor and shipping of tire since no one stocked the “special “ tire. Took more than two weeks to get tire.

USNMA1 · 03-17-2021, 01:19 PM

By the way never hit a pothole or ever left highway except to from house. All truck routes with paved roads. Quite frankly, I think they push the limits on the axle weight. The North Point and large 5th wheels should be triple axle.

crockettlarry · 03-17-2021, 02:14 PM

Same issue as OP, although I think I had wear on the other tire, same axle, but not as nearly pronounced.

Took it to dealer. Bent axle. Been waiting for 2 or 3 months. Axle arrived yesterday.

Not encouraging news from you guys about tire coverage.

Larry

Scott_of_the_Yukon · 03-17-2021, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkymntsno

Tires on our 355mbqs have gone about 12,000 miles. The passenger rear tire has a wear pattern on the inside tread row. Dropped off 5'er for some more warranty work as we just got back from Biloxi, 1200 mile round trip. Service rep said Jayco won't warranty tires. Says there's nothing to adjust since it's only one tire wearing bad. Is this true? I'm just supposed to accept that and have to buy one new tire?

Same issue. diagnosed as a bent axle, but had to go to an axle specialist as dealer did not have the "correct" tools to diagnose properly. When in doubt, get a second opinion from a specialist.

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