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Old 08-10-2014, 01:13 PM   #1
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Climate Shield Claims

Has anyone seen the Jayco ad featuring their climate shield package? They place a unit in a dometic temperature control room and leave the unit in 100 degree temperature and then 0 degree temperature. They claim the unit only got up in the low 70's during the extreme heat and down in the high 60's during the extreme cold. My unit sits out in the Georgia sun at 95 plus degrees and it sure gets above 70. In fact it will get up into the high 80's. What gives with this claim. I do have the sticker on my 5th wheel that states it has the Climate Shield Package.


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Old 08-10-2014, 01:17 PM   #2
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You don't actually believe all that do you?
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You don't actually believe all that do you?
Why not? No reason they couldn't build an insulated trailer. The test would be more valuable over a longer period of time and it would be useful to see a standard model tested as a comparison but it sounds like a decent package.
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If a unit is not subject to direct sunlight or windy conditions, there is no reason that there claims could not be true. 100 degrees in the shade is a whole different animal then one in 100 degrees in direct sun. Same thing with 0 degrees in a no wind condition.
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IIRC there are other posts on this site talking about how well the unit did in 103 degree heat with only one a/c running.
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It's my opinion that if you put an RV in a 100 degree "box" it would probably be fairly easy to get the interior temp down to 70 or so because no one is constantly opening and closing the door and the sun isn't beating down on the exterior. If you put your hand on the outside surface of an RV when the sun is shining on it and the outside temp is 100, I would bet the RV surface would be much hotter than 100. Their test is accurate, it's just that the conditions are not realistic.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:15 PM   #7
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Our 2014 Jayco Pinnacle 38FLFS is a hot box. It is putting out air at around 20 degrees cooler than ambient but in 90 degree temps it won't cool the rig below about 86. It has two A/C units, 13.5K and 15K so I think their ad is a bunch of hooey. We had a 2012 36RETS Pinnacle that was the same. It seems that not enough air flow must be the culprit. The bedroom will freeze you out but the living room is horrible. The ceilings are around 9 feet tall so I would guess that is the cause. In Az. winters when the temp is 100 degrees, you are lucky to keep it below 86 degrees. Even with the 2nd BR a/c running and the bedroom door open, it struggles to stay below 86.
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The ceilings are around 9 feet tall so I would guess that is the cause.
Cold air falls, so if anything the bedroom area in the goose-neck would be the warmest.
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Well now you know the difference between the outside temp and solar heating.. in the bake oven the sun does not heat up the exterior. My solar oven can hit 400 degrees and the RV is similar to a solar oven..
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Issue with #'s

The controlled environment eliminates one MAJOR issue. They surrounded the TT with 100 degrees of heat. If you own an Eagle with a dark front cap, the temperature of the front cap exceeds 200 degrees in the direct sunlight. Double the temperature of the controlled environment. Inside the cabinets behind the cap, gets to over 140-150 degrees and that radiates into the TT. Do not accept what is said in the video!!! Probably would be better for WINTER camping in the sun...

If you search some of my posts, you will find a thermal temperature gun out put of 199 degrees, and the interior temps caused by it.

Can not say anything about non-dark front caps.
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Key word that the JayCO tech told me is "controled" conditions... menaing no doors were opened, no vents opened, no wind chill, just very controlled... nothing in real life is controlled like that but they do need to establish a 'base line' when testing so thats why the real outcomes ar enot close to their 'controled' testing outcomes. I will give all a word of advice from my ventures under my brand new 2014 5ther this past weekend. The water supply lines from the holding tanks to the water pump all run along the outside steel frame of the unit and will freeze quickly in cold weather... i cut new access pannels in my couragated underbelly and I added pipe insulation to every supply and drain line to prevent freezing while I am hunting in late november... Also the plastic pex tubing runs through some round holes cut in the crossmembers without anything preventing them from rubbing and eventually rubbing through the pex causing leaks... the pipe insulation will prevent that as well. If anyone plans to kjeep their unit a long time or camps in cold to moderately cold weather I can give advise as I am doing a full on MOD to mine to include insulating lines, adding insulation to the "enclosed underbelly" which is just a covered underbelly which will get freezing cold if not modified.
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It's my opinion that if you put an RV in a 100 degree "box" it would probably be fairly easy to get the interior temp down to 70 or so because no one is constantly opening and closing the door and the sun isn't beating down on the exterior. If you put your hand on the outside surface of an RV when the sun is shining on it and the outside temp is 100, I would bet the RV surface would be much hotter than 100. Their test is accurate, it's just that the conditions are not realistic.
I would also venture a guess that the RV is starting at 70 degrees when they turn on the heat. I doubt they let it heat up to 100 degrees and then hit the A/C. I also agree with your comment about the doors being kept shut tight for the duration of the testing.
My Sundance has the same Climate Shield ratings(Weather Guard on the Heartland's). If you keep it cool, starting in the morning, it will maintain it interior temps without much effort. If you wait until it starts getting hot, it's an uphill battle to get it cooled off and keep it comfortable. Never attempted 70 degrees, but 74 is plenty comfortable for us, and that is where we set the thermostat, at home as well as in the RV.
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We had a situation in Palm Desert, CA this May with it being pretty warm, 108 degrees. Turned the AC on when we left in the morning and it was cycling at around 80 when we got back in the afternoon. Seemed to work ok. Two years ago, the AC didn't work very well when we let the FW get warm while we were seeing Zion and then tried to cool it down in the afternoon when it had gotten up to 95 degrees.
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We have had our 2015 Pinnacle for almost a month and decided to take it to Austin this past weekend where the temps were near 100 degrees. Around 11:00 am each day the trailer started getting really warm and the two thermostats began to climb, ultimately reaching 95 degrees. The bedroom a/c seemed to keep that area more tolerable, but to tell the truth it was better just to stay outside until after 5:00 pm. We had all of the shades (even the room darkening shades) pulled down, no lights on, and had added an additional solar screen on the back window to no avail. On the other hand, our son was parked next to us in his 2014 Jayco Swift Bunkhouse with one a/c and his trailer was downright cold. I'm not sure what to think other than the Pinnacle came with a hefty price tag and lots of promises!
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Did your son turn on his AC early in the day before it became hot while you left yours off until it was hot? I believe that none of these FWs will cool down from 100 degree temps if left to get up to 90 or so before turning the AC on.
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No, we had both of our air conditioners on the whole time. We never raised the shades and rarely opened the door.
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I know the new climate shield keeps our camper much cooler on hot days. We can keep our camper easily at 70 to 73 degrees in hot and humid weather. I am not even going to try to imagine it starting at 100 degrees before you turn the air on not sure it could catch up.
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My x23j Hybrid sits beside the house in direct sunlight and that sucker can get hot when closed up. On the contrary, we have camped on Columbus day weekend here in the northeast. Will a little bit of heat turned on for a bit and a space heater to sustain temp, it keeps relatively warm inside. (with one end turtled) The DW noticed that the coldest part is the floor. A couple of cheap throw rugs helps that. Wife wants me to look into placing some type of foam insulation on the undercarriage.
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I think perhaps I wasn't clear. We arrived in Austin on Thursday night when the temps were around 80 degrees. The trailer cooled down to 72 degrees in a relatively short time and held that temp until around 10:00 the next morning, when it started its climb until the inside reached 95. In the evening it cooled down again and held the temp until around 10:00 the next day. When the air was initially turned on, it was only 80 degrees outside. It was never turned off until we left on Sunday.
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Well, I'm feeling better now. Contacted the dealer, they contacted Jayco and Jayco said there must be something wrong with the a/c. Taking it in to the dealer tomorrow for service. I am hopeful!
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