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Old 03-15-2016, 06:57 AM   #11
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Guess this applies to your inspection and photo...

http://www.rvupgradestore.com/v/vspf...s/pdf/0065.pdf

I guess my question is how does the upper tube section get crowned. Is this welded in place to the RV frame I guess...

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Old 03-15-2016, 07:32 AM   #12
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Roy, to answer your guestion, the outer tube is welded to the frame. It is done by Lippert during the construction of the frame. The frame is then supplied to Jayco with the slide room mechanism already installed. Atleast, that is the case with these flush floor systems.

As for how the top of the outer tube gets crowned, it has to do with physics and the stresses that are created as that room moves in and out. As the gear pack assemblies are driving the gear rack, it forces the inner tube up. With the natural reaction for the inner tube to lift and the additional weight of the room as the room moves past a certain point....the result can be the crown.

I do think Lippert needs to consider welding a reinforcement strap across the top of the outer tube to prevent or lower the incidence of this happening. Keep in mind, steel quality also plays a part in this issue. And, we all know where most of America's steel comes from, right?
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:31 AM   #13
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I think Lippert needs to learn how to build a frame period. Even with better steel they'd barely be good enough to hold what they hold. I know, Manf requests a frame at certain specs, Lippert supplies. Sorry, I just don't like a company that has practically monopolized things and still puts out junk. I miss the smaller players.
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Old 03-15-2016, 11:51 AM   #14
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BigJohnD, I totally understand what you are saying. Thing is, the little guy starts a small business with a product that may or may not compete with Lippert. Lippert comes along and pays the guy heavy money to buy the business and it goes into a circle. Eventually, Lippert puts the small guy out of business because, they can usually produce the product cheaper.
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It's why I always admire the ones who won't sell. Compete or not, they take pride in their product. A very small scale example is stuff I build in my shop, or have had built according to my design. Mostly Rv related of course. And on one occasion a few years ago, had the offer to send the prototype to somebody for mass production. Nope. Not in my shop. I take pride in all mods, the things I build Etc Etc, and there is no price for that. Of course I'll always help out most fellow RVers.
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:26 PM   #16
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Old 03-24-2016, 05:56 PM   #17
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I'm crossing my fingers.....
I picked the fifth wheel up on Tuesday. The Lippert Rep had been to the dealer and showed them what was wrong. He then welded some shims into the tube that receives the female tube. This works to prevent the female tube from crowning the top of the female tube. The big test was when I arrived home after the 90 mile trip, and the slide worked properly. Moved out quietly, no popping sounds and no lurching of the slide room. And it is flush against the wall. I plan on taking a 350 mile each way trip next month, so it will really be put to the test then. If anyone else has this recurring problem, contact Lippert directly. Jayco's delay in their willingness to do so cost me about 5 180 mile round trips to the dealer with no fixing the problem.
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Old 03-24-2016, 09:57 PM   #18
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LegalEagle, this is one of the best threads I've read... A problem with horrible results and potentially a lifetime of grief and no one would take you seriously....to a solution that had to go over the heads of Jayco which most people would have never done.
Now here is the proven cure for all to see for who ever might run into the same problem you had. (If they ever find this thread)

I hope my weak brake issue works out like this, as I have my dealer going over Jayco's head right to Lippert.

Although it was a rough road for you, but, congratulations on a job well done!
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In my view, Jayco is not a manufacturer, but an assembler.
Watch all the structural parts that make up your equipment and check that manufacture them.
I have also a problem with my side out and not always adjust after one year.
I have many problems with the floor, it is deformed in some place.

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Glad to hear that your problem is fixed. Would you mind to post a picture of the repaired area. It may help some of the more advanced DIY'S in the future.
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