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Old 01-26-2016, 04:20 PM   #1
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Going to 16" wheels on 29.5BHDS

I am sure this has been covered before on the forum, but I am not finding posts using the search method. I have a 2015 29.5 BHDS and recently went to a 2014 2500 RAM. The trailer as you can imagine is not level. I know it won't be prefect just switching to a larger wheel and tire. I wanted to see what others have done and what setups they went with to help the trailer ride more level. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-26-2016, 04:55 PM   #2
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Bigger wheels and tires will help, but not with making the trailer taller. We also have the 29.5BHDS and a 2015 Ram 2500. We've done everything to raise the trailer, including flipping the axles. Still, our trailer is about 5" nose high. Our next step, now, is to have a sub-frame added. This will raise the rear to correct height. We will also go ahead and replace the shackles and axle hardware with heavier duty ones. We will also have the axles aligned, after all the hardware has been replaced.
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They may not completely solve your level problem but is still worth doing if you can upgrade to E rated tires at the same time. Safety first.
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I've got a 29.5 BHDS on order and waiting to see what it's going to be like with my 2015 F-350. I thought they came with axles below the springs....

I'm prepared to have to go the sub-frame route, and have a decent shop in the area that I trust to do the work. And if I have to go this route, I may replace the springs at the same time. By the time they add the dual pane windows and 4 point leveling on my rig, not too sure I am going to have any cargo capacity left to carry our stuff. Since that floorplan couldn't be had in an Eagle with higher capacities and larger water tank, we decided we'll do what we need to do to make it what we want. Really liked the floor plan and didn't want to go any longer.

I did order with the 16" upgrade though. First sign of anything fishy with the tires and I'm replacing them with LT tires.
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Bigger wheels and tires will help, but not with making the trailer taller. We also have the 29.5BHDS and a 2015 Ram 2500. We've done everything to raise the trailer, including flipping the axles. Still, our trailer is about 5" nose high. Our next step, now, is to have a sub-frame added. This will raise the rear to correct height. We will also go ahead and replace the shackles and axle hardware with heavier duty ones. We will also have the axles aligned, after all the hardware has been replaced.
I was already going to raise the the axles to the next notch, but that sounds like that and wheels isn't going to be close. What am I looking at in regards to a subframe ?? A good RV dealer can do this or should I look outside ?? This is getting to be more than I expected. I want to do it right however.
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I was already going to raise the the axles to the next notch, but that sounds like that and wheels isn't going to be close. What am I looking at in regards to a subframe ?? A good RV dealer can do this or should I look outside ?? This is getting to be more than I expected. I want to do it right however.
The other option would be to put blocks between the axles and springs to lift you up more. I know trucks use them so they can work& be reliable. I would think you wouldn't want more than a couple inches. You'd have to replace the U bolts for longer ones.

If I had a subframe added, I'd get a quote from a frame shop that's only a few miles away. They aligned my axles on my first rig and were surprisingly reasonable. If it was too pricey, I'd do it myself. But I'd probably bolt the subframe to the frame. I like welds, but not where there will be a lot of bounce. If it isn't perfect, it will crack and take the steel with it.
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Can anyone confirm if the axels on the HT series come as spring over or under?

Also has anyone in this thread used the Correct Track system. I read on another thread that it helped quite a bit with getting more height, plus helps align the trailer and improve towing.

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Can anyone confirm if the axels on the HT series come as spring over or under?

Also has anyone in this thread used the Correct Track system. I read on another thread that it helped quite a bit with getting more height, plus helps align the trailer and improve towing.

Correct Track™ Suspension Alignment System
The first thing that comes to mind: "We can't build them right, so we'll invent an adjustment system for you to purchase"

I'm not impressed. It is like a cam bolt used for control arm adjustments on vehicles, which tend to wear out, and I'd be worried that it would be prone to wear. Also don't like the statement "the owner can re adjust the axle if you hit a pothole". If you hit a pothole and affect your axle alignment, you bent something. Adjusting the octagon is treating the symptom while ignoring the disease. The bent thing will still be bent.

I was also put off by their "laser alignment". All they are doing is measuring the distance from center of pin to the front of tire at a fixed height. While this helps, it's only one small part of a real alignment. They do nothing to check axle placement from side to side, nor the camber in the axle.

I suppose it could work, but I'll let someone else try it.
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I am sure this has been covered before on the forum, but I am not finding posts using the search method. I have a 2015 29.5 BHDS and recently went to a 2014 2500 RAM. The trailer as you can imagine is not level. I know it won't be prefect just switching to a larger wheel and tire. I wanted to see what others have done and what setups they went with to help the trailer ride more level. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
What hitch are you using? I may be in the 'same boat' as you soon. My 5'er is on order, but I also know the 2014-15 Ram 2500's are 3/4" taller than my 2013. I plan to use the Anderson Ultimate Hitch and it has 3 different height adjustments so I'm not sure how Nose-High I'll be with this setup yet. I also ordered the 16" Wheel upgrade package and plan to have the dealer flip the axles.

Also, can someone with a 2016 29.5 measure how far from the rear wheels to the front of the nose is please. I need to know if I'll have to add onto my driveway where I plan to park the camper.

Thanks,
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Old 01-27-2016, 01:11 PM   #10
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Dave,

I have a B&W Slider hitch and a Mor-Ryde pin box, and adjustments for both have been maxed out to lower the nose. Still, I'm at least 5" nose high. Now, can you still tow nose high? Yes! The long term affects (over 10,000 miles) would be your rear spring and axle taking more load than the front ones, which could lead into premature wear to the axle components and tire blowouts. So, I'm hoping to prevent these from happening, and create some peace of mind for us, by adding the sub-frame and upgrade the suspension hardware to heavier duty one (with wet bolts and bushings.)

Wolverine, regarding cost for the sub-frame, adding new hardware and aligning the axles, the quotes I got were between $1,300 to $1,800. In AZ we have a RV suspension shop that specializes in this area, which was highly recommended--and the quote was very reasonable. I'm thinking when all said and done, I'll be shelling out about $1,500 or so.

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What hitch are you using? I may be in the 'same boat' as you soon. My 5'er is on order, but I also know the 2014-15 Ram 2500's are 3/4" taller than my 2013. I plan to use the Anderson Ultimate Hitch and it has 3 different height adjustments so I'm not sure how Nose-High I'll be with this setup yet. I also ordered the 16" Wheel upgrade package and plan to have the dealer flip the axles.

Also, can someone with a 2016 29.5 measure how far from the rear wheels to the front of the nose is please. I need to know if I'll have to add onto my driveway where I plan to park the camper.

Thanks,
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