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Old 04-09-2013, 08:18 PM   #1
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Considering a Jayco Model 22FB

We are looking at a used 2012 Jayco JayFlight Model 22FB and cannot find some information in the brochures, the questions are:
  1. Is structural frame of the Jayflight Model 22FB made from lumber studs or aluminum studs for the walls and roof ?
  2. Is the Converter a 3-stage charger ? - 3 stage chargers know when the battery is fully charged and at that point in time only provide a float charge (less charge) to prevent overcharging conditions.
  3. How can I tell if the Model 22FB is 4-season ? the underbelly is enclosed with some type of black blanket material ?
  4. Can the Jayco model 22FB be towed with my vehicle, specs for both tow vehicle and trailer follow:
Tow Vehicle - 2000 Toyota Tundra 4x4 with the 4.7 v8 Specifications:
Maximum payload capacity of 1406lbs
Maximum towing capacity of 7100lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of 6050lbs
Gross Axle Weight Rating Front 3160lbs Rear 3760lbs

Travel Trailer - 2012 Jayco Jayflight model 22fb Specifications:
UVW 4370lbs.
GVWR of 6500lbs.
CCC of 2130lbs.
Dry hitch weight of 570lbs.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:44 PM   #2
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We had a 2011 model 22FB, prior to our current TT.
1. I believe the walls and roof are lumber studs, not aluminum.
2. Yes the converter is 3-stage
3. Ours had the optional "thermal package", and single pane windows. At best, I would consider it only 3-season, but I don't like to camp in the cold northern winter.
4. Our 22FB had a ship weight of 4,600 lbs, and loaded for camping was 5,600 lbs. Loaded tongue weight was in the range of 750 lbs. Our Chevy 1/2 ton TV had a GVWR of 7,000 and on the CAT scales with the trailer hooked up, our TV weighed 6,700 lbs. This MAY be the limitation of your TV since you say your GVWR is 6,050 lbs.

Hope this info helps.....
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I am having great difficulty understanding the weight ratings and what is considered safe. I guess I do not understand the 'Maximum Towing Capacity' and 'Gross Vehicle Weight Rating' . If someone can answer my questions below would be most helpful.

[B]How does the maximum towing capacity of 7100lbs and gross vehicle weight rating of 6050lbs for my TV factor into this equation.

What are the crucial weights that I should focus on when the information on the Tow Vehicle and Travel Trailer are:

Tow Vehicle - 2000 Toyota Tundra 4x4 with the 4.7 v8 Specifications:

Curb Weight 4681lbs
Maximum payload capacity of 1406lbs
Maximum towing capacity of 7100lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of 6050lbs
Gross Axle Weight Rating - Front 3160lbs
Gross Axle Weight Rating - Rear 3760lbs

My tow vehicle Loaded with Camper Shell, Passengers, Fuel & Cargo weighs approx 5600lbs

Where does the TT weights fall into this, assuming a weight distribution hitch is used ?

Travel Trailer - 2012 Jayco Jayflight model 22fb Specifications:

UVW 4370lbs.
GVWR of 6500lbs.
CCC of 2130lbs.
Dry hitch weight of 570lbs.

Greatly appreciate any assistance to help me better understand all this.

Thank Mike
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Hi Mike,

it is very confusing and there are several factors that must be considered. The good thing in your case is that you have actual weights of your fully loaded TV. The GVWR of the TV is the maximum that you can load it, the difference 450# between the actual weight 5600# and the GVWR 6050# is the payload you have remaining. You must add the weight of the tongue of the trailer to your GVW of the TV. Typical tongue weights for a TT should be between 10% - 15% of the GVW or actual weight of the trailer. Your trailer UVW is 4370# and typically you can expect to load it with about 1000# of payload excluding any water. If we calculate 10% & 12% of your (4370 + 1000) 5370# trailer it represents 537# & 644# respectively. So either way it is over the GVWR of your truck. The WDH will move some of the payload back to the TT's axles but how much can really only be determined by the stings of the WDH and seen via the readings at the CAT scales, I have seen readings as high as 25% of the Tongue weight but each setup is unique. The best thing to do is to remove anything that you can from the TV and move it to the TT where it's weight will only impact the TV's GVW by 10% - 15% of actual weight. Make sure you don't go over the GVWR of the TT and also make sure that you don't go over the GAWR of the TV.

Hope this helps.

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I am having great difficulty understanding the weight ratings and what is considered safe. I guess I do not understand the 'Maximum Towing Capacity' and 'Gross Vehicle Weight Rating' . If someone can answer my questions below would be most helpful.

[B]How does the maximum towing capacity of 7100lbs and gross vehicle weight rating of 6050lbs for my TV factor into this equation.

What are the crucial weights that I should focus on when the information on the Tow Vehicle and Travel Trailer are:

Tow Vehicle - 2000 Toyota Tundra 4x4 with the 4.7 v8 Specifications:

Curb Weight 4681lbs
Maximum payload capacity of 1406lbs
Maximum towing capacity of 7100lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of 6050lbs
Gross Axle Weight Rating - Front 3160lbs
Gross Axle Weight Rating - Rear 3760lbs

My tow vehicle Loaded with Camper Shell, Passengers, Fuel & Cargo weighs approx 5600lbs

Where does the TT weights fall into this, assuming a weight distribution hitch is used ?

Travel Trailer - 2012 Jayco Jayflight model 22fb Specifications:

UVW 4370lbs.
GVWR of 6500lbs.
CCC of 2130lbs.
Dry hitch weight of 570lbs.

Greatly appreciate any assistance to help me better understand all this.

Thank Mike
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Hey Mike, welcome to the JOF forum. Here's a link that should help you with the 22fb construction:
http://www.jayco.com/products/travel...t/construction

Inverter is 3 stage
Ours has the underbelly thermal package
Your Toyota should tow it just fine

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Mike,
The GVWR of your TV is what Toyota says the truck suspension, chassis and brakes can safely carry, and without reducing the vehicle life span (wear out) beyond some percentage factor they use. Going over that GVWR is do-able if you don't plan on racking up lots of miles, and if you only tow in nice weather without heavy wind/rain. If you keep your speed down, this will improve your safety in heavy wind/rain situations.
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We towed a 2010 Jayflight 26BH with a similiar Tundra. (2006) You should have no problem with your Tundra. Another figure to look at
is the GCVW (gross combined vehicle weight) which is the total weight of your TV and TT added together) Probably is around 12500# Try not to exceed 80 to 85% of this number for a good towing experience. The towing section of this board has lots of usefull infomation about these things.
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Note: the OP has a 2000 MY Tundra. Toyota had changed the design quite a bit by the 2006 MY.
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