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01-28-2018, 07:42 PM
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Truck recommendations for 264bh
Hello everyone I’ve decided to get a 264bh and and new truck. I was considering a F150 but I don’t know if they can do it or just continue to save up and get a f250. Any suggestions would be great
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01-28-2018, 07:59 PM
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Jayco 264
hi. i have the same TRAILER and i am pulling it with a CHEVROLET SILVERADO crew cab 1500 5.3 V8 ENGINE WITH TOW PACKAGE, haven't had any problems towing. I think you will be fine, but with a 250 for sure would also be great if not better.
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01-28-2018, 08:02 PM
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At 4600 lbs dry, I'd pull that with any modern 6 speed 1/2 ton. My 26bh is slightly heavier and I pulled it with a 1500 Silverado before switching to a 2500. Power increase aside, the difference in handling between the 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton was significant. Pulling with the 1500 was always a two-handed task because the truck was easily push around in moderate winds and the rear end porpiosed constantly. I'm not saying you need a 2500 but it makes the towing experience much less laboring on you and the truck.
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01-28-2018, 08:02 PM
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I say go the 250 route...because at some point, I'm sure you'll upgrade!
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01-28-2018, 08:05 PM
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It’s a 6000# gvw trailer, of course a 1/2 ton in just about any configuration Is all you need.
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01-28-2018, 08:11 PM
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I agree with others, a f150 can do the job, but like many others you may enjoy the camping experience and want to upgrade to a heavier trailer.
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01-28-2018, 08:13 PM
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I would say if you are planning on staying in this TT weight range, the F150 will be fine..... if:
- You do not get an F150 with an economy- rear axle ratio. Ford (and I) recommend a towing rear axle ratio of 3:73. There are a few reasons for this... when you are towing on a highway that is hilly, a 3:50 or 3:20 will constantly up shift and down shift. Our 3:73 does very little upshifting or down shifting and I always use Tow-haul mode with cruise. In the mountains, if you plan on heading up there, there is no comparison the 3:73 wins hands down. in Colorado our EcoBoost w/3:73 was passing a lot of TT's being towed by diesels. Yes, the 4:11 would outperform the 3:73, but we only spent about 1K miles so far in those mountains.
-Also, if you go with the F150 you will want the "HD Payload/MaxTow" package.
The 3:73 is also a nice every-day ratio (gas mileage). It is the best of both worlds.
Engine wise, that is pretty much up to you. The standard V8 has less HP/Torque (at least in 2012) than my EcoBoost. There is no way I will go back to a V8, that is unless they put Twin-Turbos on the V8's. And in my day, I only owned "BIG BLOCK" engines.
We have an Eagle 284BHS and the EcoBoost has no problems with it at all.
The only complaint some of the EcoBoost owners have (I did not have a complaint) is in Engine-braking. It is only a beefed up V6 with Twin-Turbos. While in the mountains, on the 6% grades, I just let the engine do the braking and when the RPM's got up high, I would use the brakes to slow down to 35 and start the process over. Never had any brakes over heat. I cringed a lot when those bigger TT's would speed past us going down those grades. I stayed right in line with the semi's, of course keeping an eye on them.
I am sure you will get plenty of thoughts regarding what to buy, just sit down and figure out which will be best for you.
I have 73K miles on the 2012 EcoBoost now... what will I get to replace it...yup another one.
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01-28-2018, 08:51 PM
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I was towing a 284bhsw with a 2014 f150 Max tow with no issues. We’re a ford family my son and brother both tow similar tt with f150’s with no issues. Just get a good wd sway system and you will be fine.
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01-29-2018, 12:56 AM
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Hi, I am considering this same Trailer 😃
I am hoping to pull with my SUV- '04LexusGX470, 6500# tow capacity. It has a short wheelbase, so I am concerned about the length of this TT... I'm looking at a few shorter units, but really like this one!!
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I just posted about my hitch set-up, so waiting to see what the more knowledge folks reply back with, before I can move forward with Trailer...
Happy Camp'n 🌞
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01-29-2018, 01:02 AM
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Oops, wanted to ask, if it's okay,
What do you (or anyone else who has one!) love about this model??
I like no slide, just bc need to keep weight down! (I'm hoping to Max out at 5500#GTW. )
Yet, it still has room for dinette & sofa!!
And, I love the 2 full bunks!!
It's just my son & I, but my large dogs (GSD & Rotty) need their own bed- bottom bunk is perfect!!!
Anyways, watching this bc trying to figure out if I can tow it too.
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01-29-2018, 04:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookemdanno
I say go the 250 route...because at some point, I'm sure you'll upgrade!
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It is almost guaranteed. We started out with the pop up, several pull behinds, and now the 5th wheeler. Bigger is almost always better.
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01-29-2018, 05:37 AM
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Thank you everyone this is great info
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01-29-2018, 12:01 PM
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Honestly I wouldn't even consider buying a 1/2 ton truck knowing you are going to be towing a tt. It's not like you already have one and want to use it. If you have the opportunity to choose, go with the 3/4 ton. Maybe even consider jumping up to the 1 ton. Like others have said you will want to upgrade at some point. We all do. I started off with a 35 ft bumper pull denali and then a 35 ft thor toy hauler. I towed both of those with my 3/4 ton super duty. I now have this seismic and had to buy a new truck. The cost difference is really minimal when going from a 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton.
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01-29-2018, 12:11 PM
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I'd go with a 3/4 ton for many reasons... included safety #1.
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Sold RV.... downsized to a 6x12 cargo trailer with Starlink and mini-split A/C. Easy to tow at 1200# - real happy now.
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01-29-2018, 12:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keimarquis
Hello everyone I’ve decided to get a 264bh and and new truck. I was considering a F150 but I don’t know if they can do it or just continue to save up and get a f250. Any suggestions would be great
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Have you looked at the cost difference from F150 to F250. I don't think it is that much?
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01-29-2018, 01:10 PM
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As long as you buy the properly equipped F150 you'll be fine.
You'll want to look for the following:
Payload - #1 issue to watch out for. The more goodies you add to your vehicle (ie. moon roof) the less payload you'll have. My XLT F150 has 1813lbs of payload, which would be sufficient for that trailer.
Max Tow Pkg - Your going to want this for towing to maximize your tow rating.
Heavy Duty Payload Package - not a must, but something to consider if your going to a Lariat model which has some heavier options on it.
Engine - 3.5 Eco or 5.0L V8. Both will do the job, both have a decent tow rating. I have the Eco, I hear it is 'the way to go' for max towing, but from what I read, the 5.0L does a fine job as well. I just wanted a quiet ride, so the Eco was my choice. I hear the 5.0L winds up more and you hear the exhaust. Some people love that...I don't.
Tow mirrors - get them. They're standard on the F250, optional on the F150. If you're going to tow regularly, might as well get fully integrated tow mirrors. I like mine all the time...towing or not.
I tow a 2015 Jayco Whitehawk (6700lbs dry) with my 2016 F150 (in my signature) and it tows really well. My tongue weight is 950lbs and that falls within my payload when all occupants are factored in.
The reason I stayed with an F150 was because I didn't want an F250 as my daily driver. The 6.2L is a bit of a gas hog. The 6.7L diesel is A LOT of engine and more costly to maintain. My dad has the 6.7L and it hasn't been flawless. Not saying there aren't flawless ones out there, but he's had some major issues with it. The technology built into modern diesel is....terrifying to me!
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01-29-2018, 01:18 PM
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A 250 / 2500 will always have better braking and stability which is one of the reasons they are considered 'safer'. The engine in the 150/1500 should "pull" it fine, it's the braking and stability going around curves (exit/entrance ramps, etc) that should be considered.
Other considerations would be:
will this truck be your every day driver or just used for towing (gas will be lower MPG in the 3/4 ton and not as comfortable ride)
Will you park the TT at a Permanent site or travel around with it
Will you be towing on mostly flat terrain
I used to tow with a Tundra 5.7L with max towing and the truck did fine. When it was wrecked I went to a F-250 and noticed a huge difference in braking and stability in general. Now I just feel safer in general and glad I upgraded as I tend to load down my TT and pickup while I tow. If I do go to a larger TT I can still get something this truck can tow
Good luck Andy happy glamping
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01-29-2018, 01:51 PM
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As has been discussed hundreds (if not thousands) of times in these online forums, it's not tow capacity that's typically the primary concern when matching a truck to a trailer, it's payload vs. tongue weight.
Truck manufacturers clearly display a truck's payload rating in the door jam area. No problem there. The other half of the equation is tongue weight. How do you determine what your realwold tongue weight will be---before you spend tens of thousands of dollars on a new truck or trailer? Therein lies the problem.
For first time buyers, it's extremely important to know trailer manufacturers are going to quote the absolute lowest possible tongue weight number they can quote without putting themselves into legal jeopardy. Why? Because lower numbers sell more trailers. If you read the small print, they typically quote these low-ball numbers based on units with no options, propane, and/or batteries.
Here's a perfect case in point. We just purchased a new trailer that is advertised as an "HT" or 1/2-ton towable trailer. Manufacturer's empty tongue weight rating was 1080 lbs. Clearly high for a 1/2-ton truck to begin with. Wait, it gets worse. Scaled the trailer right after leaving the dealer. Empty tongue weight was actually 1,250 lbs. But, wait, it still gets worse. Loaded for the road, even trying to place heavy items in the rear of the trailer, the tongue weight soared to over 1,500 lbs! To my knowledge that exceeds the OEM receiver rating of every 1/2-ton truck on the market. With bumper pull trailers, the receiver rating trumps the payload rating of the truck. You're only as strong as your weakest link.
This isn't our first trailer. We've owned a number of 5th wheels and bumper pulls. Although we were prepared for a higher realworld tongue weight, these numbers surprised even us. Our tow vehicle has 4,000 lbs. of payload; however, the factory installed OEM CAT V receiver has a maximum tongue weight rating of 1,700 lbs. So, here we have a supposedly 1/2-ton towable trailer almost exceeding the receiver rating of a 1-ton truck!!
Last week we saw a 1/2-ton truck pulling the exact same make and model trailer we purchased.
There are those who try to be safe by the "numbers". There are those who determine safety by how much their truck sags (with airbags).
Your choice. Be safe out there!!
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01-29-2018, 02:51 PM
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I wish there was better data and there might be...
RV Accidents and Statistics
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01-29-2018, 03:21 PM
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Interesting, thanks for sharing. It appears that it is safer to be in RV than in any other car on the road.
Personally, I think that overweighted 1/2 ton with proper WD, keeping reasonable speed is safer that 1 ton truck towing 80 mph (regardless of the trailer).
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