Jayco RV Owners Forum
 



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-21-2018, 10:37 AM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Eagan
Posts: 8
X254 owner's roll call.

Just picked up an X254. I think the layout is perfect for our family. It doesn't appear to be a very popular model. They did stop making it.

I found one thread, but there wasn't a lot of useful information.

I'm hoping to hear from others that have owned the X254, and what there experience has been so far. Any advice?
__________________

kraigf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2018, 11:55 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
36fire412's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: St. Joseph
Posts: 349
Finally! Someone else with a X254. I never see any posts on this model. I did join a group on this forum that caters to this model but there really has not been any activity in the way of threads or posts by that group since last year. I just picked up a brand new 2016 last month from a dealership out of East Lansing, MI. From what I could tell, it looks like they only had that model in 2015 and 2016 before it was discontinued. The 2016 gained 2" in height and a few hundred pounds with a frame/suspension change from what I could learn. I recently saw a 2012 model 254 (no "X" designator) for sale that was a different layout without a slide from what I could tell.

I agree with your assessment that it will be perfect for our family too (we have 3, 7 & 8 year olds). We have ours in storage and plan on taking it out in May. We'll be looking to see what modifications or accessories we'll be adding to ours. I'll bring it to the driveway before then to test out plumbing and electrical. I just picked up bed rails at IKEA for $12 each to keep kids from falling out of bed. I'm working on a ladder idea next for the two bunks next. We'll have to chat and the camp season progresses. What year us yours?

Jerry

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
__________________

__________________

Jerry B.
SW Lower Michigan
2016 X254
2012 Toyota Tundra Crewmax TRD 4x4
36fire412 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2018, 04:57 PM   #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Eagan
Posts: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by 36fire412 View Post
Finally! Someone else with a X254. I never see any posts on this model. I did join a group on this forum that caters to this model but there really has not been any activity in the way of threads or posts by that group since last year. I just picked up a brand new 2016 last month from a dealership out of East Lansing, MI. From what I could tell, it looks like they only had that model in 2015 and 2016 before it was discontinued. The 2016 gained 2" in height and a few hundred pounds with a frame/suspension change from what I could learn. I recently saw a 2012 model 254 (no "X" designator) for sale that was a different layout without a slide from what I could tell.

I agree with your assessment that it will be perfect for our family too (we have 3, 7 & 8 year olds). We have ours in storage and plan on taking it out in May. We'll be looking to see what modifications or accessories we'll be adding to ours. I'll bring it to the driveway before then to test out plumbing and electrical. I just picked up bed rails at IKEA for $12 each to keep kids from falling out of bed. I'm working on a ladder idea next for the two bunks next. We'll have to chat and the camp season progresses. What year us yours?

Jerry

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

We have a 2016. I was actually looking for a 2105, because I thought they had more cargo capacity. They do if they are bone stock, but the standard package makes them equal. You'd actually have to request to not have the standard package from the factory to get the weight down.

I didn't know the 2016 was any taller. Good to know. If height is a concern of yours, you can always "flip the axle". Apparently it's not too difficult, and it's dirt cheap.

I actually wanted a 2012-2013 Outback 210RS originally, but it's been too difficult to find in good condition. I didn't even know this layout existed until months of searching for that model.

I think it will be a great fit, but I'd still love ot be 3 feet shorter with the 210RS.

I'm not sure how I'll solve the ladder situation yet. My number one goal right now is to see at what outside temperature we can still camp in comfortably. We like to camp early and late season.
kraigf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2018, 08:25 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
36fire412's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: St. Joseph
Posts: 349
I like the outside paint on the 2016 a little better than the 2015. The added frame and or suspension weight probably took away from the payload on the 2016. I think I read where the "beefier" suspension added two inches to the 2016 height (10'2" verses 10'). I'm not concerned about the added height at this point since neither height will fit into my conventional garage. I added a couple of screen shots below from my phone that came from the Jayco website for 2015-2016 side-by-side comparisons (although, they don't show a full comparison).

I haven't owned it long enough to look underneath and realize the axle could be flipped. I don't have any desire to do so but who knows after a few outings. It may be advantageous to lower the steps that way.

I looked up the Outback 210RS you were looking for. Nice camper. We also looked to go used after going to the Grand Rapids, MI RV Show. The new ones were nice but I thought I might be able to shave $3-7,000 if I dropped back a few years from new on a nicely maintained used one. The show gave me information on what I wanted/didn't want in a camper. I stumbled on to the X254 by accident when looking for quad bunk units without the 33' length. There was no such beast at the show that I saw to compare to the X254.

I was ready to go the longer length to get my quad bunk area but my wife was not having it. I'm glad she talked me out if it. I was thrilled to find the X254 that still gave me the quad bunk and at a shorter length (still longer than you wanted but it towed nicely from the dealership 135 miles away).

They actually had two X254s at the dealership just a week or two before I discovered the one they had left. Both were 2016s. I got 40% off list ($16k instead of $26k) and they were happy to get it off their lot. Some of the used ones I came across at the dealerships were similarly priced so I was very happy with my find. They also threw in a weight distribution hitch, outside patio mat, leveling blocks, tire chocks and chemicals and toilet paper for the water tanks. Plus the two year Jayco warranty.

I priced out two ladders that I would make myself for the quad bunks. If I were to go oak, about $75-80. If I were to go PVC, about $60-65. That's for both. It's also a rough estimate from a trip I made to Lowe's the other day. Pricing may vary depending if I missed something. The $12 IKEA bed rails I mentioned were cheaper than I could do nicely myself so, in this case, I bought rather than build.

As far as cooler/cold weather camping, we put about 2,500 miles last camping season on a 2010 Jayco M-1007 pop-up I bought in Dec. 2016. We hit some low to mid 40s for overnight temps on some of those nights and the inside was plenty warm (we even had electric blankets we never turned on). I say that since that was with the canvas ends (and no underbelly cover). I would guess a hard shell like ours would perform even better. I do not have the factory option underbelly cover (for added insulation) but I am happy I don't. I figure it will be a lot easier to access items on the underside when needed and not have to patch up a repair when I'm done.

We also used a 1,500 watt electric heater (on the low 750 watt setting) in lieu of the propane furnace on some nights so that could be another option to supplement the furnace if necessary. I used the 750 watt setting since I had two of them that came with the pop-up. Trying to run both at 1,500 watts exceeded the breaker. Running both at 750 watts was too warm so we found that one at 750 watts (low) was fine. We kept those when we sold the pop-up so I'll see if I need those this year.

Jerry

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
__________________

Jerry B.
SW Lower Michigan
2016 X254
2012 Toyota Tundra Crewmax TRD 4x4
36fire412 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2018, 02:44 AM   #5
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: edmonton
Posts: 4
Hello everybody! I'm really interested in buying a 2016 X254, if anyone has one for sale or knows of any for sale by owner or dealer. Thanks very much.
DROBC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2018, 08:27 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Danvers
Posts: 47
I have a 2015 x254. My only issue is that it is so low to the ground that it doesn't have much clearance when backing into my driveway. Has anyone raises the suspension with a lift kit? We really like the set up for the most part.
BigT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2018, 05:02 PM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Eagan
Posts: 8
Here's a few of the improvements I've made. Keep in mind I greatly value function over form And being able to get it back to factory form after we are done with it.

I made some bed rails out of 1x3 pine, and pocket screws. If you don't have a pocket screw kit, you can just predill the bottom screws at an angle. I'm pretty sure they are 1 1/4 screws pocket screws. They worked perfect for the bottom two screw that went into the side rail of the factory bed. Didn't poke through. The riser are 8" tall, and I'd say that's the MINIMUM height. My boys ar 7 and 8, and I'm not too worried about them rolling out. Just enough to keep them in if they have a nightmare. If I made them again, I think I'd go to 10". I'd say 12" is the minimum for very young kids.

I removed the cabinet doors in the front. Honestly, they'll only serve as finger pinchers. I screwed a 2x2 INSIDE the cabinet for a step for them to get up. They step on the bottom bed first, then use the 2x2 to get up to their bed. I'm very happy with the function, and when the time comes it will be very easy to remove. I did plunge the first screw a little to deeply, and it dimpled out that cheap cabinet framing a little bit. Watch out for that.

It also removes weight. Weight that I can now use for useful things. I also took the bathroom door off, and I removed the cabinet in the slide out bunk. The bathroom door might go back on at some point as my kids get older, but I'd prefer a curtain for weight. We'll see what happens.

We put a new 6" foam mattress in the back for the king. We originally put the factory mattress on top of that one, but I think we'll try just the 6" mattress for a while. Comfort is king, so I'll do whatever it takes to get a comfortable bed. The extra mattress cut off too much headroom if we can help it. Removing the cabinet helped a bunch with that also. I don't think it's a very useful cabinet, and we'd be better served by a couple lightweight corner shelves. I'd rather have a window out the back like on the Outback design, but beggars can't be choosers.

I also picked up these for the bottom of the table. Best purchase I've made so far. Really improves the function.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm working on increasing our battery capacity at the moment. We'll be doing a lot of boondocking.

Overall I'm very happy with it. It is probably the perfect camper for us. I think I'd rather have an 2012-2013 Outback 23RS in mint condition, but this works too.
Attached Thumbnails
IMG_20180503_173546891_HDR.jpg   IMG_20180503_173603306_HDR.jpg   IMG_20180503_173621546_HDR.jpg   IMG_20180503_173652464.jpg   IMG_20180503_173720253.jpg  

kraigf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2018, 05:03 PM   #8
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Eagan
Posts: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigT View Post
I have a 2015 x254. My only issue is that it is so low to the ground that it doesn't have much clearance when backing into my driveway. Has anyone raises the suspension with a lift kit? We really like the set up for the most part.

Go on YouTube and search for flipping the axle on a RV.
kraigf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2018, 05:39 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
36fire412's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: St. Joseph
Posts: 349
I like your ideas. I think we're on the same page with similar improvement areas.

I already purchased the bedrails listed below (three of them) from IKEA at $12 each. I also bought PVC to make some ladders for each side similar to the picture below. I may consider what you did with the king bed cabinets. Right now, I'm not sure what we'll store in them. I also upgraded the thermostat to something that has a digital readout (Honeywell 5100 series - see pic). I picked it up near new for $20 on Ebay.

We have our maiden voyage set for two weeks from tomorrow for four nights 30 miles away at a state campground we stayed at last year. I'm sure that trip will bring about additional ideas and improvements.Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_2018-05-03-19-26-34.jpeg
Views:	2
Size:	65.1 KB
ID:	39301Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_2018-05-03-19-25-04.jpeg
Views:	2
Size:	36.0 KB
ID:	39302Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_2018-05-03-19-35-04.jpeg
Views:	2
Size:	39.8 KB
ID:	39303
__________________

Jerry B.
SW Lower Michigan
2016 X254
2012 Toyota Tundra Crewmax TRD 4x4
36fire412 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2018, 07:27 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
36fire412's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: St. Joseph
Posts: 349
Here are pics of the improvements in place. The little ladder is for my 3 year old who can't quite climb into the lower bunk just yet. Total cost on all three ladders with 3/4" Schedule 40 PVC and cement was about $33. I stood a couple rungs up on the taller ladders, bounced slightly and got off. Other than a little sway or bend in the ladder (not at the rung) my 220 pounds tells me my 8, 7 and 3 year olds should be just fine.Click image for larger version

Name:	20180505_210659.jpeg
Views:	4
Size:	55.5 KB
ID:	39397Click image for larger version

Name:	20180505_210844.jpeg
Views:	3
Size:	59.1 KB
ID:	39398Click image for larger version

Name:	20180505_210717.jpeg
Views:	3
Size:	58.7 KB
ID:	39399Click image for larger version

Name:	20180505_210740.jpeg
Views:	3
Size:	38.6 KB
ID:	39400
__________________

__________________

Jerry B.
SW Lower Michigan
2016 X254
2012 Toyota Tundra Crewmax TRD 4x4
36fire412 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
x254

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.