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11-08-2016, 06:20 PM
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#801
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Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Manchester
Posts: 32
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Upgraded from 2007 to 2017 tundra
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2011 Jayco Jayflight 26 RLS
2019 Jayco Jayflight 28 BHS
2007 Tundra 5.7 4x4 TRD SR5 D/C
2019 Tundra 5.7 4x4 SR5 D/C
From the great Granite State
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11-08-2016, 06:44 PM
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#802
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Fulton, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman3573
2008 jeep liberty. Upgraded brakes, suspension, and tow package. Regeared to 4.56 pulling 2017 jayco 26bh. Only issue while towing is on very windy days but will be addressing that with a nose cone on the trailer.
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Honestly...WAY too much trailer for a Liberty...They only have a 5,000 tow limit and that is pushing it. I know...we have a 2008 Nitro and the vehicle is way too small for that size camper, re-geared or not.
That said, you really need to look at a ProPride 3P hitch. You will eliminate the sway from the wind you are getting. If you have the power and braking set up, the ProPride will take care of the "tail wagging the dog". The best money you can possibly spend other than getting a truck.
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2017 28BHBE Kitchen skylight, remote control and Aluminum wheels hitched by ProPride 3P
2017 Ram 2500 CC LB 4x4 Big Horn Cummins
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11-08-2016, 06:50 PM
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#803
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Orlando
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LiftedAWDAstro
Honestly...WAY too much trailer for a Liberty...They only have a 5,000 tow limit and that is pushing it. I know...we have a 2008 Nitro and the vehicle is way too small for that size camper, re-geared or not.
That said, you really need to look at a ProPride 3P hitch. You will eliminate the sway from the wind you are getting. If you have the power and braking set up, the ProPride will take care of the "tail wagging the dog". The best money you can possibly spend other than getting a truck.
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Thanks for your input. I will look into it this evening.
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11-08-2016, 08:52 PM
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#804
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Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Manchester
Posts: 97
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman3573
2008 jeep liberty. Upgraded brakes, suspension, and tow package. Regeared to 4.56 pulling 2017 jayco 26bh. Only issue while towing is on very windy days but will be addressing that with a nose cone on the trailer.
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If the information I have at hand is correct, the Jeep Liberty's towing capacity is 5000 pounds, at the most; and yours may be lower. The GVWR of the Flight 26BH is 7000 pounds. You will be 40% over the towing capacity, and an unknown amount over your total maximum GCWR (the maximum for your year is 10,175 pounds). So, if the base weight of your Jeep is (4269#) + 15 gallons of fuel (90#) + two adults (300#) + other items in the Jeep (200#) + a full trailer (7000#) = 11,859#. You would be 1684# overweight.
I understand you upgraded the brakes and rear end. However, the rear end helps the engine and transmission to get you going; although there is far more to the powertrain than a rear end. You can upgrade your calipers and brake pads, but much like the powertrain, there is more to a braking system. Then there is the frame, tires, wheels, and so many other components that need to be considered.
In conclusion, I'm sorry to say, but your Jeep is overmatched with this size trailer. You need to find a vehicle that can handle this mass, as it's not just you and yours who are at risk, but everyone on the road.
Sorry buddy.
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11-08-2016, 09:10 PM
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#805
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Orlando
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Eagle
If the information I have at hand is correct, the Jeep Liberty's towing capacity is 5000 pounds, at the most; and yours may be lower. The GVWR of the Flight 26BH is 7000 pounds. You will be 40% over the towing capacity, and an unknown amount over your total maximum GCWR (the maximum for your year is 10,175 pounds). So, if the base weight of your Jeep is (4269#) + 15 gallons of fuel (90#) + two adults (300#) + other items in the Jeep (200#) + a full trailer (7000#) = 11,859#. You would be 1684# overweight.
I understand you upgraded the brakes and rear end. However, the rear end helps the engine and transmission to get you going; although there is far more to the powertrain than a rear end. You can upgrade your calipers and brake pads, but much like the powertrain, there is more to a braking system. Then there is the frame, tires, wheels, and so many other components that need to be considered.
In conclusion, I'm sorry to say, but your Jeep is overmatched with this size trailer. You need to find a vehicle that can handle this mass, as it's not just you and yours who are at risk, but everyone on the road.
Sorry buddy.
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No need to be sorry buddy. I appreciate the information. Now i can show my wife the numbers and get my truck
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11-08-2016, 09:17 PM
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#806
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Wahnapitae
Posts: 7
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2015 Ram 1500 ecodiesel
2016 23 MDS Jayflight
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11-08-2016, 09:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NE Colorado
Posts: 311
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman3573
No need to be sorry buddy. I appreciate the information. Now i can show my wife the numbers and get my truck
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This is why we had to buy a new truck when we got our Jay Feather X213 6 weeks ago. I convinced her that the Honda Ridgeline (about the same specs as your Liberty) was just about at a comfortable towing capacity with our popup, and was even a bit bouncy with it. The dry weight of the new TT just about hit the top limit for the Honda, and there was no way it was going to like trying to pull a full load.
Bottom line - I got a new 2016 Ford F-150 3.5 Ecoboost 4x4 XLT. It pulls the new TT like a dream, even with no WDH. 
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2016 F-150 XLT 4x4 Super Crew 3.5L Ecoboost
2017 Jay Feather X213
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11-08-2016, 09:43 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Orlando
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RPreeb
This is why we had to buy a new truck when we got our Jay Feather X213 6 weeks ago. I convinced her that the Honda Ridgeline (about the same specs as your Liberty) was just about at a comfortable towing capacity with our popup, and was even a bit bouncy with it. The dry weight of the new TT just about hit the top limit for the Honda, and there was no way it was going to like trying to pull a full load.
Bottom line - I got a new 2016 Ford F-150 3.5 Ecoboost 4x4 XLT. It pulls the new TT like a dream, even with no WDH. |
My hero.!!!!!
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11-08-2016, 10:18 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Manchester
Posts: 97
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman3573
No need to be sorry buddy. I appreciate the information. Now i can show my wife the numbers and get my truck
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Glad I could help. Good luck.
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11-09-2016, 01:50 PM
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#810
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
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Just a question out of curiosity - when you bought that trailer did a salesman at a dealership tell you that your Liberty would pull it fine?
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11-09-2016, 04:51 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cumming
Posts: 79
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11-09-2016, 06:02 PM
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#812
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Orlando
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyBound
Just a question out of curiosity - when you bought that trailer did a salesman at a dealership tell you that your Liberty would pull it fine?
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Yes with a wdh
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11-09-2016, 06:05 PM
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#813
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: California High Desert
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A lot of you have some very nice tow vehicles. Mine was bought a bit over 6 years ago while my wife was pregnant with our oldest daughter. At the time we had a Nissan Pickup and a Sonata, now we have the 350 and a minivan. I knew I wanted a Super Duty with crew cab for kids, a camper shell (reduces registration in CA and more secure), 4x4, long bed, and a V10. After searching for weeks for a V10 in a 2005 or later within 250 miles my wife called me telling me she found my truck right here in town. It was older than a wanted, a '99, but it had EVERYTHING on my list and only had 70,000 miles. Of course the best feature of all is that it is has no payments!
I'll admit the newer Super Duties look very appealing and I haven't ruled out getting one eventually. But when I remember mine is only costing me gas and insurance and minimal maintenance thanks to the V10, I feel I can wait.
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1999 F350, XLT, 4x4, 6.8L V10, AT, CC, LB
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11-09-2016, 07:03 PM
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#814
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Black River Falls, Wi
Posts: 1,154
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2019 Pinnacle 36 FBTS
2016 Silverado 3500 CC SRW DuraMax/Allison
1975 Corvette for the sunny days n dry roads
2017 RZR for the rainy days n muddy roads
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11-13-2016, 07:40 PM
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#815
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Black River Falls, Wi
Posts: 1,154
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One more try
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2019 Pinnacle 36 FBTS
2016 Silverado 3500 CC SRW DuraMax/Allison
1975 Corvette for the sunny days n dry roads
2017 RZR for the rainy days n muddy roads
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11-14-2016, 08:06 AM
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#816
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Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Manchester
Posts: 97
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stingray75
One more try
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That's a nice looking rig you've got there, and this is coming from a lifelong Ford guy.
You're certainly not marginal on the capability of the truck. Nice.
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11-14-2016, 11:25 AM
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#817
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SE Wisconsin
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Nice truck! I really like that color!
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1998 Jayco Eagle 302FK (Honda EU3000is)
2016 GMC Sierra Denali 3500HD 4x4 Duramax/Allison
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12-01-2016, 09:33 AM
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#818
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Cincinnati
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Just before we left for the 1300 mile round trip to Washington DC from Cincinnati the week of Thanksgiving. We were back home to have Tday dinner with family. No issues at all.
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Four kids, 12 and under 2016 Jayco x23B - 2013 Dodge Durango Citadel - 2006 Land Rover LR3 SE
Retired - 1996 Coleman Cheyenne Pop-Up RIP Chloe, a very good dog - 9/15/01-12/02/17
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12-01-2016, 10:15 AM
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#819
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Keizer, Oregon
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My one owner 1997 Ford F-350. 109k on the clock with a 7.3 PSD and auto, works like a champ!
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12-03-2016, 07:40 AM
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#820
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Orlando
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Well this happened yesterday. Traded my jeep for this beauty.. My new tv Dodge Ram 1500 tradesman. Now to readjust the wdh..
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